the Jets cant peg their hopes on drafting a QB in 2014 when they MAY have a shot at Geno this year, if he's there at #9 and Idzik says to himself, well we can get a guy next year and we end up going 7-9 and picking 13th overall how are we going to address the issue then All this pickin a QB in the mid rounds yet its a weak class make no sense, if the class is weak then the talent pool at QB will dry out quick, take them while you can Geno Smith seems to be the ideal QB for us if our offense is going to look like how I expect it to look, give him a shot and go from there
The Jets could get a QB next year just not one of the top guys most likely. The Steelers got Roethlisberger on the 11 as an example. Taking the third or even fourth best QB in the teens next year is a lot more risk than taking the best QB on the 9 this year if he's there. I have no idea how the Jets are going to jump on the QB issue. That said, when a good prospect is in front of you and you have no QB the thought of taking him has to be ricocheting around in your head.
i like the way smith plays. his proday tape is promising. only thing i dont like is i feel like he takes a pretty wide stance during his throws. i could see there being some accuracy issues with that footwork. great footwork otherwise though, just dont like how wide he is when he makes his throws
If you believe what you said in the first part of your statement, then the second part shouldnt even matter. Whats the difference between 9 and say 14? A 3rd rounder? You are going to pass up on a guy who you think could be a franchise QB because of a 3rd rounder?
So we can't peg our hopes on drafting a QB in 2014 but we can peg our hopes on Geno Smith despite numerous experts saying that he may not even be a first round talent? If we somehow go 7-9 with Sanchez or whoever under centre then maybe QB won't be as big of an issue as we thought. Like someone said: Maybe he'll be the come back player of the year. Maybe with Holmes coming back, the new OC, Hill having a full offseason, new RB, new systems and who knows who else we'll get via draft/free agency he'll be okay. Do I believe that? Not really, but if we're 7-9 then who says we need to use a first rounder on a QB? Even say we do end up with the 13th pick and still want a QB: if we do the Revis trade that is supposed to be on the table we'll likely have four picks in the first 50 selections (or better). We'd definitely be able to move up a few spots to get the guy we need, not every team in the top 5 is going to require a QB and even if they do they might prefer to have a few picks and pick a later guy and add some depth at the same time. I won't be happy if we pick Smith at 9. I'll be furious if we trade up to pick him. But if we do pick him I guess I'll have no choice but to trust in Idzik for now and hope he knows what he's doing. I wouldn't hold a grudge against Smith (like many did when Sanchez was picked), I'd obviously hope he turns out and is a franchise calibre QB...I just really don't think that's likely and hope we don't have to find out the hard way that he's not up to the task.
Smirh is nor a first eound talent, let alone a top 10, though, your math is correct. For us, Smith is like Matt Flynn. Someone elses mistake.. Let rhem keep it.
You are honestly the first person ever that Ive heard to state that Smith is not a 1st round talent... Thats probably about 30+ scouts or qualified "experts". Care to explain how your opinion is so definitive and correct?
read my post above that one. he is not so good that it is a no brainer to grab the guy at 9. its also possible he falls out of the first round, in which case id grab him up with a 2. i think there are much better prospects before him though. i know hes a qb and all, and looks like he might have some promise, but once again, hes not so good that you dont look at your other draft options first but i definitely would not be upset if they took the guy.
reports are reports, they are wrong and right but in the NFL you go with your gut, you pick a guy you hope you can develop and if the Jets feel they can win with Geno Smith under center then you make it happen Also the difference between Geno and Mark as prospects are that 1. Sanchez wasn't ready even though we went to the playoffs his 1st year he only played 1 year in college, Geno has more than that under his belt We have to take the smart approach with our next quarterback and develop him into a stud, not prospect is a sure thing but I got high hopes for Geno unless he goes to the Raiders or Jaguars
geno smith isnt a top 10 prospect IMO but hes definitely worth a first rounder, especially for a team with a need at qb. it just so happens that a lot of these teams (jets included) have other needs as well
I think he's clearly a top 15 prospect though. I personally can not name 15 players better than him in this draft. Due to the fact that he is a WCO fit, he could possibly even move up the board. Ill give it a shot- Joekel Fisher Jones Milliner Warmack Floyd Jordan Werner Moore Ansah Cooper After that, I would say Geno is definitely in the mix for BPA. Even with players I listed, there's major flaws. Moore doesnt have elite athleticism, Ansah is extremely raw and didnt produce much in college, Jordan is still a raw pass rusher, Cooper is a guard...
Smith's a QB. One of those guys is definitely going in the top 10 and he's considered to be the best of them at the moment. This isn't like 2000 where none of the QB's had a solid 1st round grade. It's more like 2005 where there were a couple of guys people thought would go in the 1st but nobody who stood out as the 1 pick or even a top 10 guy for sure. The 49ers guessed wrong but 3 QB's got taken in that 1st round and one of them is probably going to the hall of fame. Same thing this year only the odds are excellent that none of the QB's are going #1 on a reach. if I had to guess right now Geno Smith, Matt Barkley and Ryan Nassib all go in the 1st round with Nassib going late.
I see Geno Smith coming to us, The Chiefs trading up from the 2nd for Matt Barkley after taking Lane Johnson at #7 and Ryan Nassib goes to Buffalo who trades up to the end of the 1st with Baltimore
yeh i guess your right, i could see idzik giving mornhinweg a rookie to develop also, so theres that too. id really like the jets to get jarvis jones even after his bad pro-day, guy is a beast on the field, but i wouldnt mind getting some fresh legs under center next season
I'd rather wait for a guy like Bridgewater, who we know will be very good. I think Smith has a high upside but he seems very raw .
There are scenarios with the Jets getting Smith and Jones on the 9 and 13 where the major impact positions missing last year are filled in one draft. Throw in OL, RB and TE later in the draft and the Jets could be a completely different looking team in 2013 if not quite ready for prime time.
That could possibly be the best case scenario possible... Sadly, things dont work in our favor that much and Geno wont even make it to 9. I think its pretty likely that neither make it to 9. I have a hard time seeing him get past the Raiders, Cards and Buffalo. They are scenarios where the Raiders go in a different direction at 3, Cards prefer Glennon in the 2nd and Buffalo likes Nassib enough to pass on Geno. One thing is for sure, no other pick would instill emotion in Jets fans and the organization like drafting a new potential franchise QB, whether it be for the better or worse.
Easy: Hobbes is in love with Sanchez. I actually wonder if the topic of season finale of Necessary Roughness was based on Mark & Hobbes.
