Trading up is really expensive. Like 9 + 1st round pick in 2014 plus something expensive. I don't think the Jets are going to do that. And yes, waiting until next year to draft the QB just gets you to next year without having the QB and with no guarantee you won't be in the same position in 2014 again. There are several people in this draft that might fall to 9 and really help the Jets out. I think Geno Smith is potentially on that list because QB is so hard to find and so important.
The only way justifying the jets drafting Geno is if he falls to 9 And even so, I'll be pretty pissed.
If we're in position to get one this year and are likely going to have a better pick next year it only stands to reason one should be available next year. Considering the QB position is so vital and we're so weak at that spot this year how can we win more games? Plus you still can trade up if need be, if we get extra picks for Revis it won't hurt as much. Not to mention Geno is far from a high end prospect. A lot of people don't rank him in the top ten, some say there are no first round calibre QBs in this draft at all. Next year, however, there are some potentially high end QB prospects depending on who declares. I wouldn't be against going on the offensive side of the ball, but no QB this year please.
The question is, do you think there will be a QB available when the Jets pick in 2014 that is of the caliber of Smith or higher? Do you pass up the BPA this year just to pick up Smith? I think pushing to get a QB early just to get a QB early is the wrong track to take. Pick BPA this year and then work to fill in the positions of need next year.
You dont know if that QB in next years draft will be any better... Its not very likely we are in position to draft Bridgewater or Manziel because we woul have to be in the top 3. We will be bad, but Im not sure that bad. Outside of those two, Im not sure there's anyone in that class that is a better prospect at QB than Geno.
Someone in the 2014 draft? Like where and when? Seriously, all that waiting for next year does is to give the Jets a random chance that things might be better next year at QB. If there was an elite QB available this year the Jets would have no chance at getting him. If there's an elite QB available next year the Jets might have a 10% chance at getting him. Sitting and waiting doesn't do anything at all for the Jets but push the question a year further out. Look at the teams around the NFL with QB problems right now. How are any of them served by waiting, particularly given the lack of impact players in this draft?
The Jets are not drafting Smith. The Jets are getting ready for a parachute, if they need to trade out of the spot.
Look at the teams with the top 5 picks this year. They're all in the worst 8 defenses in the league. That's how you get a top pick in the draft. Your defense blows chunks. We're not getting a top 5 pick, let alone a top 3 pick. The Jets are headed right back for another 9 pick next year and it could easily be the 13 or 14, which is what it would have been this year if Sanchez didn't collapse in December again.
The problem with taking Smith is at nine is he is a high risk pick for number 9 and a reach. Maybe not as big a reach as Sanchez was in 2009 but we should learn from that mistake and use the pick on a safer better value player like Jordan, Warmack, Cooper, a trade back or as much as i hate to say it Austin or Patterson. Sadly this draft lacks value at the top end of the draft, but even with the weak top of the draft Smith is not worthy of a top 15 pick, If this was last year I doubt Smith would even be a 1st round consideration. If we want to take a flier on a risky QB I would much rather use a 3rd round pick on a guy like Matt Scott who has great upside and is essentially the anti Sanchez with poise, toughness and a quick release.
You want to take a guard at 9? Really? Don't talk about risk then because that move has Cleveland Browns written all over it.
No. Of the pass rushers are gone, you get out, if you can. Doesnt matter. By Cutting Suxpatrick, the Jills telegraphed the 8pick. Smith goes to Az or Buffalo. Idzik is laying the groundwork to trade out if those two things dont happen, and Ansah,Jordan,Jones, and Floyd are all off the board. Rhe 9 pick will be an impact Defensive player, with one caveat..,Holmes is not healty, and Pattersonis on tue board.
The top end of the draft is very weak. Warmack is very good and we have a very strong need. We are losing a high end player in Moore who was ranked by PFF as the 4th best guard on the league last year. We also may have lost Slauson and we picked up a cheap injury riddled guard that has a hard time finding the field the last 3 years. Guards taken in the 1st round seem to have a low failure rate. Warmack's a mauler you can put into your lineup and not worry about the spot for the next 10 years. Preferably one may want to trade down to get better value but in such a weak draft it will be hard to get someone to trade up to 9. If Jordan is gone at 9 there are not very many appetizing options left. I would argue Warmack is the surest thing left and the biggest impact player we can get at 9 especially considering our need. If we are going to rebuild I would like to start with the OL and surest player available who is Warmack.
Guard at 9 is an insane pick. If the world's best placekicker was out there and you didn't like who you saw on the 9 would you take him? Let's say Warmack worked out and became an All-Pro Guard for the Jets. You really want to be dealing with a Guard coming at the Jets in 4 years demanding to be paid more than all the other offensive linemen in the NFL because he was the 9 pick and now he is an All-Pro? Guard is one of the few positions in the NFL where when a player makes All-Pro everybody in the management suite of his team shudders. Look at New Orleans for the picture perfect shot on that one.
Smith at 9 is by no means a reach. QB is the single biggest deciding factor in how long it takes to recover and contend again. The continued cry for wait til next year is mind boggling to me. The chances of being in top 3 are very slim and even if we are the top 2 Qbs are bother underclassmen and no guarantee to come out. If Smith is on board at 9 it's a no brainier, the hard decision is how much it's gonna take to go get him and whether or not he is worth that risk. And seriously I love Warmack but people really want to take a guard in top 10 over a QB? Really?
If w are worrying about how much a player is going to want in his next deal because he became an all-pro than we made the right pick. Warmack is easily the surest prospect in the draft. If he's there, assuming Jordan, G. Smith, and Jones are gone, then you take him. We can worry about his contract in 4 years.
so what Russell Wilson wasn't high on many people's lists but the same guy high on Geno Smith was high on Russell Wilson last year How are we going to trade up for a young QB prospect when its likely the teams in position will take them since they'd need a QB as well We probably will be anywhere from 6-10 to 10-6 next year so thats picking between 8-19 essentially If Geno is there at 9 hell even at 7 where Arizona could pass on him and swap places with us and go Lane Johnson or Matt Barkley so we can leap frog Buffalo without losing to much ground and still trading back in the 2nd to regain the picks we lost. Point is getting the QB now will be a lot better than hoping just maybe we're bad enough to be in position for a prospect we dont even know will be in the draft
Warmack is not the best prospect. floyd is, then jordan. You dont take guards before 15, preferably 20... And Geno Smith,,,,is the best QB in the draft.,,what he is not, is a first round talent. Ive got a hundred bucks to any taker, that says he does not beat Sanchez to 30 wins, Just agree...if you welch....permaban.
