1. how do you know the Jets wont go QB early, if Geno is there at #9 they should take him, if Barkley is there at #39 they should take him 2. If the QB class is weak why waste a middle round pick on a QB
I want no parts of Matt Barkley. The only QB I would want the Jets to take (Geno Smith) wont be there at 9. So lets add depth to the OLB, o line positions.
Imagine Geno Smith dropping to the 9 and the Jets trading Darrelle Revis for the 13 plus some stuff and taking Tavon Austin on that pick to ease Smith in at QB.
That just blew my mind... alas, this only has a minuscule chance of happening, but I would like it (despite Austin's short stature)
I really hadn't thought of it this way, but QB is the best value in the middle rounds, then why not take one? E.g., if Tyler Wilson is sitting there in the third round, why not?
OTOH, how many QBs typically pan out beyond the first or second? Obviously Brady is the big exception.
I know you said beyond the first or second round, I just wanted to put a list together to see who actually panned out in the first or second round: First Round Picks Since 2000: Chad Pennington Michael Vick Eli Manning Phillip Rivers Ben Roethlisberger Alex Smith Aaron Rodgers Jay Cutler Matt Ryan Joe Flacco Matt Stafford Sam Bradford Second Round Picks Since 2000: Drew Brees Andy Dalton Colin Kaepernick
I wouldn't be shocked if any one of the teams from 2-8 who all desperately need a Qb(except Detroit) pass on Geno. I would however be shocked if they all do.
Most of the time a mid-rounds QB is a failure, with less return on the pick than just about any other position. But we have John Idzik coming out of Seattle, who got Russell Wilson in the 3rd last year. I'd have been dead set against a mid-rounds QB but there's now recent evidence that the pick is not a waste of value and our GM and the evidence are linked.
If he's there the Jets will take him... http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...mith-reportedly-impresses-new-york-jets-staff If Revis is traded maybe a trade up?
I doubt a trade up scenario. Geno Smith is not a guarantee and the Jets have had issues with trade ups in recent years. As to whether the Jets will take him on the 9 or not? That's a really good question that all the teams that like Geno Smith need to be thinking about come draft day.
Im thinking the new GM may want new blood at the QB position...morningwood would be a good fit with him after dealing with Vic.
I'm betting that John Idzik is spending a lot of time trying to figure out where the QB is going to come from. That doesn't mean that he'll go against the percentages though. From all accounts he's a percentage kind of guy. Taking Smith on the 9 is a real possibility.
He may be playing the rest of the teams also. Some more private workouts... New York Jets: Dion Jordan, Ryan Nassib
We know that Geno Smith had a pretty amazing year by the numbers. We also know that the year was skewed some by 4 of the greatest games a college QB has put up recently. He had 4 games this year where he threw at least 24 passes and completed at an 87.2% rate or better. He had 4 games with a QB Rating over 200.9 which even in the rarefied atmosphere of college QB Ratings is pretty impressive. He had 5 games where he threw for 4 TD's or more and not a single game all year where he got shutout on TD passes. He went 273 passes at the start of the season before he threw an interception. Based on his numbers Geno Smith is probably the best QB prospect to come out in the last year or so. (Sorry had to get that one in. ) But West Virginia got in a funk with one of the worst college defenses in recent memory and as a result they wound up 7-6. They did this despite allowing 495 pts in 13 games... So Geno Smith's great year wound up looking less great because his defense allowed an absurd number of points. He did win the game they allowed 63 points in though. Think about that for a second. Your defense allows 63 points and you win the game because you go 45-51 for 656 yards and 8 TD's. If you pull the top 3 games this season off the stack and just look at everything else this is what it adds up to: Att - 404, Comp - 267, Pct - 66.1, Yards - 2731, YPA - 6.8, TD - 26, Int -5 So without the huge games he was just a very good patient QB who took what the defense gave him and did not throw picks. Take the bottom 3 games off the stack and he did this in the other 10 games: Att - 376, Comp - 286, Pct - 76.1, Yards - 3524, YPA - 9.4, TD - 37, Int - 3 Take the top 3 and bottom 3 off and you get this: Att - 262, Comp - 184, Pct - 70.2. Yards - 2050, YPA - 7.8, TD - 21, Int - 2 In other words Geno Smith was an awesome QB last year almost anyway that you look at the numbers. He led WVU into a new conference and basically had about the best year you can have short of doing something completely unprecedented at QB. I bring all of this up just to point out that if the Jets actually take Geno Smith the people who are on ledges threatening to jump should take a pretty deep breath before that do that. The guy is going to be a good NFL QB unless he's completely mishandled or gets hurt. The teams looking at him in the top 10 know what they are doing and at this point we have to assume that the Jets do too.
the question is how far up the Jets would have to trade to get Geno because he won't be there at 9. Would it be #2 to pass Jax or #6 to pass Arizona? How much would that cost etc. I'm sold on Geno. The QB's in the next few years I like are Bridgewater, McCarrons, and Marriota. I don't think we'd be able to get any of them unless we're a top 3 pick in future drafts. Izdik might think that this is our best chance.
And what if we're not in position to take a good QB you can't hold off on a pick waiting for next year if Geno Smith is there at 9 he better be a New York Jet
