That's not entirely fair to Idzik. Tannenbaum already rolled the dice on Sanchez before he got here and, as many have pointed out, cutting the kid would cost the team more than giving him another shot. The team's already taken a chance on Sanchez. That being said, if Smith is there at 9 and the organization believes that he's the long term answer, then they should pick him. FTR: I'm all for waiting it out till next year.
I seriously do not want to go through a rebuilding season even if intellectually I might see the need for it. But even a rebuilding season is not the same as or necessarily equivalent to giving up on the season. I don't want to be unfair here, because it's not like the Jets have done nothing at Qb. They did get Garrard ( as skeptical of his health and related factors as I am). But so far all they did was that. If the Jets make no other move at Qb, which at this point they are probably not doing, and it turns out the questions about Garrard are justified, and he doesn't end up starting, and Sanchez does, that goes down in my book as giving up on the season before it even starts. Enough already with this "give Muck a chance to turn it around!" There is no tangible evidence that he will or is likely to turn it around.
I think if they don't draft anyone, they'll bring someone else in after they cut Tebow. Probably someone like Quinn or Leinart that have started a few games and can back up Sanchez in case Garrard doesn't pan out. I don't think we will go into camp with just Sanchez, Garrard, McElroy, Simms because I don't think the coaching staff believes in McElroy or Simms and with Garrard as a brittle backup or starter, you need to have some depth at QB.
The Jets are very likely adding a QB in the draft this year. The question is whether they are making a real investment in doing so or just taking a shot late. You can make an argument for either approach given who is available. It's also possible that none of the guys the Jets like are available on the appropriate picks in which case they go into camp with no QB on the roster likely to be their starter in 2015. That's the rebuilding+ scenario.
Check out the new video( bleacher report) on Jemarcus Russell's progress as he tries to make a comeback....dropped close to 30 pounds. I would bring this guy into camp and kick the tires. This would probably be the only year I would do something like this as we clearly are picking through the scrap heap
If Nassib is available after 3 hes a jet. Otherwise, its depth at every other position. 1-3 are plug and play.
Guys dont want Geno because he's not Luck, Griffin or Wilson yet Tannehill lead Miami to 8 wins and Kaepernick took the 49ers to the Super Bowl This kid has improved his mechanics since the end of the season footwork is better, release is better, making reads(no defense) is better, he's also a film junkie, loves the game, loves to win, get better and those are all things we cant say about Nacho Its also funny that guys saying Geno isn't worth the pick then saying he wont be there anyway
What exactly was Genos winning percentage down the stretch? The guy is over hyped, and the simple fact is EVERY TEAM that needed a real QB signed. Free agent. Yeah..some prospect.
maybe the teams wanted to have as many options open as possible, like I said Geno and every other QB prospect will have to sit before they're ready but he has the best tools out of all of them and has improved so much from the end of the season did you watch his pro day, watch his game film and notice all these negativs -footwork(hops in the pocket) -sits in the pocket too long -wind up on the deep ball -poor touch throwing on the run now at his pro day(I know vs no defense) -cleaned up the footwork -3 step, 5 step and 7 step drop into the pass or escaped the pocket -clean deep ball, dropped right into the hands of his receiver -great touch throwing on the run he also threw great out routes and his touch on his fades was beautiful he's still a work in progress but kid has talent, would I love to draft him in the teen or 20's yes but I wont consider him a horrible pick at #9
For reasons discussed previously I am skeptical of this FO making a move on a Qb in the first round, probably even second, by design, going into the draft. The jets have too many other needs that can be better met going BPA, and no franchise Qb's seem to be in this draft. That being said i certainly hope they get another vet Qb in there, since Garrard is such a shakey option. One final point is I have no good feeling for that they CS thinks of McElroy at this point.
It's going to be interesting to see what happens with Tebow over the next month. Are they keeping him for a trade or is he going to be given the chance to compete?
This is the issue, you are comparing real time game situations where there's pressure, to pro-days. I know you said it before, but you cannot compare the two in any sense of the way. Sam Bradford had an excellent pro-day, I guess he's one of the best QBs in the league? Same with J.Russell. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/22000895/mayock-defends-nawrocki-after-scathing-geno-smith-report Not a fan of Nawrocki at all, but this quote really stands out
Anyone else find it funny that Jemarcus Russell is making a comeback working out with Jeff Garcia, who is also helping Sanchez haha
Seems as though, Mike Mayock is uncertain. I don't put much stock in pro-days because it eliminates factors such as reading defenses and playing under pressure. He must feel nervous about Geno Smith - plenty of uncertainty regarding him. Almost as if he's a boom or bust player- each time he goes back and looks at the game tape, he retracts his statements.
the reason I bring up his pro day is because every issue I had with him watching his film which I listed and hoped he would improve during the pre-draft process he did, I know it was vs no defense or not in a game situation but thats what camp and pre-season are for. He will continue to clean up those mechanics along with learning the WCO and getting a feel for NFL defenses and then when he's ready he'll play here's what I dont get, he wont pick him in the top 10 but he will in the top 20, thats dumb, if you like a player take him especially a quarterback I think guys are just too caught up in Luck, Griffin and Wilson to be honest, as far as pro days go it showed everyone that Geno took a ton of his weaknesses and begin fixing this, his release was fluid, clean footwork and his touch was also great all things a good QB needs and can keep improving on :rofl:
If the Jets feel he can improve all facets of his game and they feel he has the potential physically and mentally, they should take him. If he's coach-able and he learns he could be the right fit. I have so much uncertainty in this kid though. Have to remember the story of how Aaron Rodgers had plenty of flaws coming out of Cal, but the Packers practically rebuilt him and made him the player he was today. If the Jets can properly coach him and they feel they can sit him down for a year or so - then by all means pull the trigger. I just don't have confidence in the Jets CS to do this. That's my problem with all of this.
Sounds like Nawrocki is a fucking racist. I am good at #9 with any of these 3 picks: Geno Smith Chance Warmack Cordarrelle Patterson
