Nice Article on Todd Bowles...

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  1. JoeWalton

    JoeWalton Well-Known Member

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    I hope he has the same kind of success another Jersey guy, Bill Parcells, had at the Meadowlands. Must be something in the water.
     
  2. NCJetsfan

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    Sorry, but I disagree. I liked Mangini better than the other two, but never thought any of the three were the answer at any point during their tenures.
     
  4. Jets4eva9011

    Jets4eva9011 Well-Known Member

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    Not even when Rex took the Jets to the AFCCG in his 1st year?
     
  5. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Nope. I knew he was an idiot before the first game when he was predicting a SB with a rookie QB who shouldn't even be playing his first year or two. No quality HC would say and/or do something so utterly stupid. Rex lost me right then and there.
     
  6. Acad23

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    He works fast!

    MacCagnan was hired Jan. 13th, 2015.

    Bowles was signed the next day.
     
  7. JStokes

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    Good for bagels too.

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  8. irishwhip03

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    Yep makes me think he had him in mind the whole time no matter where he was hired. I remember hearing something about them working together in the past when Mac was an intern somewhere. Or maybe that was in Washington when Bowles was a player? Something along those lines.

    I was never really thrilled with the Bowles hire , but with the way our personnel improved , all we needed was a coach that wasnt going to hold us back.

    Considering Mac found steals in trades with Marshall and Fitz , I'll give him the benefit of the doubt with Bowles.
     
  9. LAJet

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    Oh the irony of some Jet fans.
    Have you guys noticed how a selected few fans are reluctant and very cautious to give a new GM or new HC much credit for a great first season. " Way too early to judge they say" but they are willing to fire them after a handful of games when thing don't go as planned.
    LOL, I seem to remember the first " Bowles sucks" thread was created after the third loss. God oh mighty it's tough out there.
    Get us ready for Buffalo Bowles....you are the man. Welcome back home.
     
  10. Acad23

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    So your saying that Mac was behind the Bowles hire?
     
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  11. Jake

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    Good call and 06 too.
     
  12. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    u sir, are an idiot
     
  13. NCJetsfan

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    LOL Why, because I could spot his cluelessness and incompetence early? Whatever.

    How many quality HCs predict a SB win? For that matter, how many rookie HCs or other HCs predict SB wins, especially with a rookie QB, who isn't even ready to play in the NFL?

    If thinking Rex is a moron and incompetent for predicting a SB win during his rookie season with a rookie QB, who only had one year's starting experience in college and who wasn't that good, and was nowhere near ready to play in the NFL makes me an idiot in your eyes, then that's a compliment, because you obviously see no problem with Rex's having done that, and that makes you quite a few notches below an idiot.

    Further, Rex did nothing great to get them to the AFCCG his rookie season. It was up and down with blown games. The team already had a solid core of talent and veteran leadership. To anyone who knowns anything about the NFL and coaching changes, it's a known fact that players' coaches enjoy quite a bump their first season when they follow up strict disciplinarians.
     
  14. kevmvp

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    What I like about Bowles more than anything is that two experienced, proven General Managers came to the conclusion that he was the right guy for the job. He's well traveled and has coached in a lot of different places and really rose through the ranks.

    He went from a player, to working in personnel briefly, to working in the college ranks as defensive coordinator, to being on an NFL coaching staff as an assistant, to being on an NFL staff as a Defensive Coordinator, to now having finally rose to the ranks of NFL Head Coach.

    The guy has earned it, not that most coaches don't earn it. But Bowles has experience and has been to a lot of different places. He doesn't just know one organization. One of the most important things for a new coach to be able to do is hire a coaching staff. Bowles has been all over the league in his time as a coach, he knows a lot of different people from a lot of different organizations, that's critical when trying to build your coaching staff.
     
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  15. NCJetsfan

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    I'd add that it's not just a matter of his having been a lot of places. That's important for the reasons you cite, but imo it's more important that he has been successful in a lot of places and has done whatever job he has had at a high level.
     
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    The same talent and veteran leadership that got their HC fired?
     
  17. NCJetsfan

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    No, he got rid of the veteran leaders and some of the other players who helped him get to those championship games.

    By 2011, guys like Thomas Jones, Jerricho Cotchery, Damien Woody, Kris Jenkins, Alan Faneca, Shaun Ellis, and Tony Richardson were gone, as were players like Braylon Edwards, Jay Feely, Leon Washington, Howard Green, Dwight Lowery, Brad Smith, Danny Woodhead, Sione Pouha, Robert Turner, Matt Slauson, Wallace Wright, James Ihedigbo, and Drew Coleman who had made good contributions in various roles. In fairness, some of them retired and some left via FA as they got more than they deserved with other teams. Still, the great chemistry and most of the leadership those teams had was gone by 2011. In their place were guys like Vlad Ducasse, Shonn Greene, Derrick Mason, Aaaron Maybin, Emmanuel Cook, Marcus Dixon, and Brodney Pool.
     
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  18. talisaynon

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    lol it's Bowles fault when were losing but Chan gets the credit when were winning. Makes sense.
     
  19. talisaynon

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    Bowles had the fucking balls to cut Quinton Coples.

    He benched Demario Davis when it was clear he wasn't getting the job done.

    Also irishwhip03 here's where you're wrong

    "After losing to the Houston Texans last month, Todd Bowles announced a back-to-basics approach on offense, saying they needed to return to algebra after an unsuccessful foray into trigonometry. The Jets scored only 17 points in each of their back-to-back losses to the Buffalo Bills and Texans, apparently botching their cotangents and cosines."

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/je...-and-the-offensive-change-that-saved-the-jets

    Bowles gets all the fucking credit. You think Rex would have made these offensive adjustments that matter? The fact that Bowles didn't just institute a red flag green flag system (lol Rex) means he knows how to make impact meaningful change.
     
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  20. irishwhip03

    irishwhip03 Well-Known Member

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    No Chan deserves some of the blame for the losses.

    Maybe next time respond to something I actually said?
     

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