NFL Combine 2/28-3/6/2017

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  1. TonyFtLaud

    TonyFtLaud Well-Known Member

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    I don't know if it's a smart move. If he had simply took responsibility for the incident and said he would make himself available before, during or after Alabama's pro day it would have been smart , the
    decision to meet with teams to discuss the incident a day earlier than Alabama's pro day is questionable decision. Executives are in Indy until late Monday night. Then have to go to Alabama's on Tuesday for the 3 hour window Foster is giving the NFL teams to come to him if they want an explanation of his actions.?Alabama's pro day is on Wed. He should make himself available to any team then, and be greatful he is given an opportunity to play in the NFL.
    This only highlights his issues. No accountability , sense of entitlement. This should be as big a red flag as his actions in the hospital
     
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    TonyFtLaud Well-Known Member

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    It's funny but the combine really seems to be more about finding reason to drop a players draft stock at most positions with the exception of QB. QB is the one position where they look for a reason to rationalize taking a player earlier than his film would project.
     
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    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    AHAHA

    Just tuned in NFLNW to see R Eisen run the 40

    Too Funny...

    St judes is the best thing the NFL ever sponsored imo...hope players fork over some of their millions
     
  4. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    If I was a Dr there I would refer him for a Psych workup,,,,for his own good

    Pathetic and entitled Two great personality traits


    SMH
     
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    This is gonna sound Cold...but this beast will get signed.... sooner rather than later cause no one really CARES about character its just the $ and the Show

    Remember Jamais Winston stealing crab legs the day or week they were gonna sign HIM? LOL I have debated with NC how most of our NFL football candidates are jail material but these guys get glorified plus big $ they are not ready for..WTG USA producing great role models

    Its unbelievable how we work hard at our own careers and are careful on the job......working for or even past retirement age

    These punks on roids are handed lifetime millions and have attitude...GTFO
     
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    I would be very surprised to see him fall out of the top 20. I wouldn't pick him, but lots would.
     
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    Based on what, though? There's been tons of cases of players killing the combine and shooting up draft boards. Troy Williamson of South Carolina and Darius Heyward-Bey come to mind instantly.

    I think certain teams weigh it as way more important than you think. Teams like the Ravens, Steelers, Packers and Patriots weigh it less in my opinion.
     
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    I know you are big on offense, but Riddick is neck and neck with Garret right now, where do you think he will drafted?

    He might be selected before foster.
     
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    Those were not unknown players, they were well in the discussion of being top prospects at their positions.As I said, if a team has 2 players ranked close, it can make a difference, or it could lead to teams going back to study that players tape. I don't think that any team, not even a team as dysfunctional as the Jets is going to draft a player based solely on the combine drills. Another thing to consider is the "experts" have little insight prior to the combine of teams plans and get more of a feel for what direction teams are leaning. Also after free agency the boards change. This year most QB needy teams, Brown's, 49's, Bears could have their future QBs in place prior to the draft. That's 3 top 5 picks not going QB. That's going to push other prospects up the board.
    Prospects shooting up mock draft boards is Irrelevant. The Experts gather more information from team executives at the combine, then factor in free agency and final mocks are usually way different than the early mocks. Before the age of technology, the combine was the only exposure to many prospects for most teams but that's no longer the case.
     
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    It was actually over a year before the draft that Winston had the Crab legs incident but that's irrelevant.
    I agree completely with you. It's all about wins and losses. A large percentage of today's athletes would likely be in prison if not for their playing professional sports. Look at how many end up in jail even with multimillion dollar deals, and how many more end up in jail after. As long as the are performing and producing wins, franchise's Will sign and pay them and fans will support them.
    Of course if the play for the opponent they are no good and don't deserve to be in the NFL! Lol.
    It's all about winning games and filling the seats.
    The guy working his ass off to buy that ticket would loose his job, or be in prison if they pulled anything near what these self entitled , unaccountable, criminals get away with due to athletic ability.
     
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    +100 000

    On top of that you have Colin Kapernick taking a knee ...

    I understand free speech, protest etc but give me a break! ..disrespecting the Country that provides you with millions to run around a Stadium ..During the week you must workout with a trainer and have a milkshake ugh ..tough life pal

    I grew up in the 60s and 70s and our Society has grown much fairer and equal to Women and minorities..Problems with Police ? Hey just stay outa trouble dude Revis had the WORST attitude imo out of all of them

    The only Coach in the NFL who really knows how to manage these characters is BB and maybe Gruden Parcels Coughlin...no matter what they earn bench them fine them fire them etc

    The Jets are run from top to bottom by complete pussies and thats another story SMH
     
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    The kneeling for the anthem really gets to me. As a veteran, I take it as a disrespect to the Men and women who gave so much for the freedom most take for granted, and for our children who are serving now.
    I honestly think that's what separates the Patriots from the rest of the league. Accountability. No bullshit tolerated by any player. Massive snow storm shuts down roads, your late? Go home.
    Set Superbowl records, your flight is cancelled night before the start of camp , call to notify the FO. No problem buddy. Arrive and find out your cut for being late.
    Play for the Jets. Don't feel like attending a meeting, no problem, just wanted to come late ? O.K.
    Mo, you have a history, promise you will show up and we will give you a long term deal and make you. Rich!!
    You promised to show for meetings, you didn't for 3/4 of the year. I have to bench you to start a game, don't worry, the seasons lost and you won't lose any money. Why are we always last?
     
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    Do you really think that (your bolded sentence) is the case? Do you think Glennon will wind up being the Bears future QB, or he just there on a 1-2 year trial? How about Taylor? Do you think he'll be the long-term answer for some team?
     
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    Remember Justin Gilbert, 2014 draft, CB, sub 4.4 burner, top 10 pick of the Browns? Currently a FA bust.
     
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    I think it's the case for this year's draft. If free agency pans out the way it's currently projected, cousins to the 49s should be long term.
    Glennon to the bears ? I'd say stop gap in my opinion , but at $15 mill a year for a 4-5 year deal he becomes a very expensive backup. Garappalo to the Browns is very likely , the Pat's are trying to drive up his value to multiple first round picks but common ground will be reached .
    Taylor , if he is released by Buffalo could be heading here to the Jets. I think he can be a very good QB. Not one of the greats but he protects the ball well, and could probably do very well with the right talent around him.
     
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    Cousins would be a fairly long term answer. Glennon would not be at all unless the Bears are dumb. If I'm the Bears GM, I frontload the contract and it has a ton of incentives, and it's written so that if Glennon doesn't play well, I can get rid of him after a year or two, with little or no cap hit.

    I totally disagree with your regarding Taylor. If the Jets sign him, I'm probably done with this team. He has two, no make that three good qualities. He doesn't throw many interceptions, he's mobile, and he's accurate on long passes. He's not very good/accurate on short and intermediate passes, and evidently isn't a very good leader. He would be very expensive as well. I think he'd have the Jets 7-9, 8-8, or 9-7 every year. He's mediocre. I'm not interested in just doing well. I want to have a truly competitive team that has a realistic shot at getting to and winning a SB. Taylor won't do that imo.
     
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    Gilbert was projected a top 20 pick and first or second rated corner in the draft prior to the combine. He was at the time touted as the most athletically gifted prospect, as Jabrill Peppers is today,and was seen as a boom or bust player. None of the players being thrown out there were unknown players or guys who made tremendous leaps due to the underwear Olympics.
     
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    Maybe I didn't express my answer correctly. I'm not in favor of Taylor commingin to the Jets in any way. I want the cheapest body on a two year deal to fill a hole . FQBs are not found in free agency.
    I don't know about Taylors leadership, he was on a Rex Ryan team. Possibly the only coach in the league worse in having players as team leaders I'd Todd Bowles.
    Taylor on the right team can do well. I see Joe Flacco being grouped in with top QBs because he was on a Superbowl winning team but I don't think of him as a FQB or even a very good QB.
    Taylor has upside, really had no #1 Reciever most of the time, Watkins was always hurt and with Rex and his staff, Montana would look bad. I think Taylor is the kind of QB who if surrounded by talent can do enough to win games, or better not loose them.
     
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    I think he'll get drafted before Foster. I don't think he's "neck and neck with Garrett" - Garrett is about as close to a perfect draft for almost any team - even teams who might already have someone pretty good on their roster like Garrett, he represents an upgrade. But I do like Reddick a lot, I just don't know if he could be the elite pass rusher I want that would justify me taking him over the best "O" guy available at #6. I don't think he'll last past maybe 15, if that, so if the Jets think he's the guy that would make the biggest impact, they're going to have to take him first, and I wouldn't do that personally. Macc might though.
     
  20. NYJetsO12

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    Its just absurd how the Jets have basically become a Country Club

    If we start talking about our sh*tty HC the Posts will go on for weeks and I am sure you have life down there in Florida

    BB came from a strict family with ties to the Naval Academy He went to private schools and attended Wesleyan Univ , one of the best colleges This isn't everything but the guy had the ability to be tops in any field imo with great organizational skills and and an eye for talent

    There is no comparison with any other Coach. But until the Jets get somebody who's good and also tough like a Parcell Gruden Tom Coughlin we will suck as a team Talent is important but Management more so

    Perhaps theres a chance MM redeems himself going forward He should be rewarded by being able to ax the CS

    imho
     

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