So what are they looking for on Brady's phone? If they already have taken the information from the two other guys' phones then they have all communication from Brady. I mean that is kind of how text messaging works. Is the idea that he was texting another party about it?
Lol I don't know if you're being a smartass or not but I'm asking what that might be. Do people think he was texting belichick about it? Maybe he has archived footage of all deflation
I am being a smartass. Just because they had access to a phone of the defaltor doesn't mean they have all the evidence they could have. Brady could have had communications with another person or another phone of the defalator regarding the subject. Emails are another thing that was withheld.
Do we know if there were any texts from Br*dy to B*li*ch*ck? There could be a whole other world of texts out there. Yeah, I know the chance that B*li texts is near zero but Br*dy may have sent some texts to someone else talking about it.
This. The only entity in the NFL that NFL fans hate more than Goodell is Kraft. And the reason is because the perception is that (1) Goodell protected Kraft during Spygate because of their close relationship, and (2) rules were changed to make life easier for Top QBs and passing games (in other words, Brady). The only reason NFL fans aren't destroying Goodell right now (for F-ing up what should have been the world's easiest sting operation and pushing the investigation past the Super Bowl and the Draft when it could have been done in a week) is because he gave the Patriots and Brady a sizable punishment (even if he did not use his own "Even if he didn't know, he should have known" Sean Payton-standard regarding Belichick). If Goodell is dumb enough to let Kraft negotiate his way into a penalty reduction the NFL fan/media backlash is going to immediately shift from the Patriots to Goodell; and it will be far, far worse. Goodell will be seen as protecting his close friend the same way he did during Spygate.
the Patriots have a press conference at 1PM. speculation is that they have come to an agreement on their bullshit side "plea" discussions with the NFL . sets quite the bullshit precedent if true. Go ahead and cheat. if caught, just deny it and the NFL will work with you to reduce those penalties.
Forget for a minute your bloodlust and desire to chew off a pound of flesh. That's the fan in you talking. The NFL and the Patriots are business partners in a highly lucrative endeavor. It is to both their advantage to avoid a messy escalation. It's not personal, Sonny. It's business.
Nonsense. The Patriots cheated. They got caught. Do other teams do the same thing? Maybe, maybe not ... but they didn't get caught. You punish the people you catch so that there is an incentive for others to not even try to cheat. Goodell is perceived by NFL fans, some in the media, and many other teams/players/coaches as being bought and paid for by Kraft. The last time the Patriots got caught cheating, Goodell destroyed the evidence before anyone else could see it; further solidifying this perception. My personal opinion is he went completely overboard regarding the BountyGate penalties, but once he levied them, he set a precedent - not just on penalties, but on what is the standard of conduct is ("Even if you didn't know, the head coach is responsible because he should have known"). Now that his buddy (Kraft) got caught, he should be held to exactly the same standards that the precedent was set for. The Browns GM got suspended four games because he sent a text message to the field ... and that was a first offense for that team ... AND they self-reported and fully complied with the investigation. If Goodell reduces the penalty, he's the dumbest CEO in America.
Well, it looks like he didn't reduce the penalties, but if being the dumbest CEO in America gets you compensated like that, I'd love to see some of you geniuses' checkbooks.
it has already been a messy escalation. could've been avoided, but it wasn't. the communications coming out of Foxboro certainly seemed personal to me. the arrogant ego which is Kraft and the Patriots felt threatened, and were firing back in a way which was not productive towards business. the lucrative endeavor which is the NFL, and the partners within, along with zero chance of winning any appeal, may have finally forced Kraft to come to his senses at this point. i just hope Goddell isn't bending to appease Kraft in regards to Br*dy though, as there is no reason to. Br*dy is the weasel which started this whole thing after all.
http://my.xfinity.com/articles/sports-nfl/20150521/Goodell.Brady/ Goodell: Brady appeal won't be affected by Kraft's decision by FOX Sports, 8 hours ago NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said Robert Kraft's decision to drop his grievance about the Deflategate punishment won't affect Tom Brady's suspension. Goodell, who met the media at the league meetings in San Francisco on Wednesday, was asked whether Tom Brady would get leniency because of the Patriots owner's decision to drop his fight about his team's punishments. "No," Goodell said flatly. He continued, saying: "The decision Robert made was his own. ... This was his initiative. I admire the step he took. We may disagree on things, but that's not unusual." On Tuesday, Kraft said he would reluctantly accept the NFL's punishment -- a $1 million fine and having two draft picks taken away -- for Deflategate. Goodell said he looks forward to hearing from Brady, who is appealing his four-game suspension. "That decision comes with a great deal of consideration. We are very careful with it and very thoughtful with it," said Goodell, referring to any time a suspension is handed down. "I have great respect for Tom Brady, but the rules have to be applied on a uniform basis." Asked about the specifics of how Brady could cooperate and whether that could lessen the suspension, Goodell batted the question away. "I'm not getting into hypotheticals. ... We have a process," he said. © 2015 Fox Sports Interactive Media, LLC. All rights reserved.
And the good fairy said...Wish upon a star later, first tell another lie you little wooden bastard.... link nsfw, and cannot post bc of forum rules. http://i.imgur.com/yvuDJoq.jpg
Of all people I would expect you to realize that that is an inverse relationship. (And that unless Buck Frady serves four, from the start of the season, Goodell is lying) I still stand by (and will be happy to be wrong) my prediction that he plays week one, gets two and is back for week 4 against Dallas.
Well, I've said all along I didn't think the penalties would be very harsh, and I was wrong about that, so it certainly wouldn't shock me if the suspension gets cut back. Not sure about playing game one, tho.
Based on where we are today, Kraft, Goodell statements, statements of owners, BB's silence..... Brady will get nothing and LIKE IT
Mass is a two-way state, they can't use txts from Br*dy without his permission. If you recall, Wells said they requested very specific, narrowly defined txts. The reason why the request was so specific is because they already saw the txts, but couldn't use it.