One day we gonna get respected One day we gonna get respected One day we gonna get respected ahhh ..saying that I feel better already
Actually, this was another bullshit against us. There was no tripping. Tripping has to be intentional. Surratt jumped for a tackle and as he fell down the guy tripped over him. There was absolutely no intent there. He didn't stick he leg or went for sliding soccer move to trip the guy - he fell trying to tackle, and the guy tripped over him. No intent, no penalty and he should not have been fined. You know what was an actual meaningful bad call in the game? The strip sack on Allen resulting in defensive TD. They called forward progress too soon and the ball was already out anyway when they called it. Should have been a TD for us. And no tripping fine.
That wasn't a penalty on the PR and shouldn't have been called, so I disagree that we got the benefit of a non-call or that we are ahead.
Surratt wasn't going for a tackle. He blocked the player, and then that player tried to hurdle Surratt as he (Surratt) was falling to the ground and tripped himself. If that's a penalty then the NFL are a bunch of fools and they should just shut the damn league down.
Challenging a missed call cannot be a part of the game. There are too many calls missed, like you said. I noted several times our DEs were held, and challenging a non call would be counter productive. And like you said, a penalty could be called on every play. However, I would be in favor of using a challenge to try to have a ref pick up a flag. With all these penalties actually happening and not called, it's an absolute shame to actually get called for a phantom one. So, you got your two challenges, you can challenge a flag. If there is nothing there, the flag should be picked up.
Yeah, going for a block. The point is, there was no intent to trip, he just fell; therefore it is not a penalty.
They're never going to start replaying games due to officiating mistakes - the season would never end. What the league should do though, is to fine themselves and send a million dollars or so to the affected team to distribute to charities in the area where the team plays. The NFL understands money; it's the only way to make them squirm a little. It only makes sense that if they can fine players for calls missed on the field that they fine refs as well when they blow one, particularly when it would have taken the suspension of the laws of physics to avoid the call. The referee should be fined as well and his entire crew combined should match the white hat's fine - they're all responsible for input on decisions made on the field. My suggestion is to make all infractions reviewable which carry a fifteen yard penalty and/or award a first down. Successful challenges would be unlimited while the team holds a timeout; to avoid abuse unsuccessful ones would lose the timeout. In the last two minutes every penalty would be automatically reviewed.
On 12 September 2013, the Jets lost an ugly game against the Patriots. The game was most notable for a brawl that erupted a minute or so from the end of the game, in which two Jets players, D'Brickashaw Ferguson and Willie Colon, were ejected. Colon was ejected for twice pushing an official during the brawl and it was widely expected that he would be suspended as well as fined. On 16 September, he was fined $35,000, but not suspended by the league. On 19 September, the Jets played the Bills, and the officiating crew threw 22 flags against the Jets, 20 of which were accepted by Buffalo. The accepted penalties added up to a huge 168 yards (90 yards on offense, 78 against the defense). In a tight game (the Bills won 27-20) it is possible this had an influence on the result. That season, the next highest number of penalties against a home team was 13. I remember watching that game and thinking the officials were just throwing a flag on every other play to teach the Jets a lesson. I don't remember any criticism of the officiating crew at the time or since, but I thought it was unacceptable in a professional sports league. And to be honest, it sometimes feels like the officials have had it in for us ever since.
if this is the case, go head hunting the refs. They’re gonna flag us anyways so Might as well get some licks in. also why isn’t saleh or jets call out all the obvious missed calls
I seem to remember Rex being quiet on the sidelines that day, when he should have been screaming at the officials for their unprofessional and biased attitude. We always just seem to suck it up. I'm not blind to the fact that the fans of every sports team think they get the crappiest calls, and I completely accept that I may just be biased and unable to think objectively. But 22 flags! Jesus Christ, Rex should have been strangling someone! On a side note... I also hate the unspoken understanding that you have to be good before the officials will start to give you calls. That is so infuriating because half the time you keep getting tripped up by not getting the calls you deserve, or being called for petty crap. Officiating needs a review because they seem to act like some kind of mafia sometimes.
Well if you don't understand that the officials are dialed into the betting lines and officiate accordingly you're naive. And of course this is done at the direction of the NFL to keep the betting and broadcast industries and their customers and viewers happy. No, I'm not saying every play or every game is manipulated, but it's done nonetheless. How many games are one sided going into the 2nd half or 4th quarter, and all of a sudden the losing team makes a stunning comeback? Remember the Pats-Falcons SB? The NFL really didn't want the Falcons to win - at least in a blowout that would cause viewers to go rake their lawns - and much preferred "America's Sweetheart" Brady winning, and gave the word to the zebras: put your thumbs on the scale for New England. Result? The Legend of Brady and Belichick was burnished, and lawns stayed unraked and unmowed tor another week. As for the coaches or GMs vocalizing any frustration publicly, they face heavy fines if they do so they keep their mouths shut. But there is no reason an owner can't go to Goodell and complain and demand an investigation or that changes be made. But frankly nothing will be done because the NFL likes things the way they are and there's nothing to compel them to change.
how are you even gonna make it reviewable? step out of bounds or dropped ball, that can be reviewed but "roughing" is a matter of opinion. even if it was reviewable 99% of the time the result would be "call on the field stands"
How did the NFL decide that the JFM call was wrong? They can tell. Especially if it's so obvious. And we're not talking about every close play. Most of the calls are pretty clear and called correctly, but there are at least a few that are like Sunday's and which impact the outcome of the game. It's those calls that should be immediately reviewed and subject to reversal.
more challenges is a partial solution. Does nothing for the situation where a play is called dead and a big gain nullified. more transparency thought will bring a sense of peace. Refs should be judged and stats kept and the league should own up if some of the refs are duds More radical would be more refs -- not necessarily on the field. Why can't we have tons of refs with limited roles/focus all of whom can throw a virtual flag if we go through the trouble of creating rules, it shouldn't come down to if you're lucky or unlucky enough to get caught. if it results in 20 flags a game -- stop doing it -- or change the rule
Pretty sure the Jets haven't had a single roughing the passer called on the opposing team in 2 years. Yet we have them against us every game, even for tickytack calls, while our QB can get body slammed and injured with no flag at all. It's bad. NFL is clearly using RTP calls to control game outcomes. Holding is also really bad and the calls are consistently inconsistent.
You don't notice how a game is called in the 2nd half, especially the 4th quarter? Maybe the driving reason is keeping fans interested in games to the end more than being influenced by betting lines, but I don't think you can discount the latter completely. In any case, the NFL needs to have far more transparency and accountability for how games are refereed.
