My very early 2nd mock

Discussion in 'Draft' started by Barry the Baptist, Dec 27, 2013.

  1. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

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    Dude why so angry?

    It seems to be clouding what you are trying to pass off as logic and realism.

    It's okay, don't get all bent out of shape. I get your agenda, I take it into consideration when reading your posts.

    I'm now convinced, we should try to mask Geno's deficiencies.

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  2. Dom

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    mask his deficiencies and play to his strengths, then we will be like 90% of the teams in the NFL
     
  3. JStokes

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    Lol. :rofl:

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    that's interesting because about exactly 90% of teams don't make it to the championship round each year.
     
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    ok so last year joe flacco and colin kaepernick are apart of the 10%?


    lol ok
     
  6. NCJetsfan

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    Since you think there are 6-7 QBs better than Geno, I might already know your answer to these two questions, but would you be willing to trade up for Bridgewater, and if so what would you give up in terms of picks and/or players? I've seen him play several times and am watching the Louisville-Miami game as I type and he is simply amazing.
     
  7. JStokes

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    So now Geno is Flacco or Kaep instead of your earlier comparisons Dalton and Alex Smith.

    Who next?

    Sammy Baugh and Johnny Unitas?

    We get it, you're a Geno fan.

    Some of us are just Jet fans.

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  8. Harpua

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    Using semantics to mask an narrow minded argument? Now I'm sure your just trolling.
     
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    yes, last year they were part of the 10 percent of NFL teams that made it to the championship round.
     
  10. JStokes

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    Said it on the main board. Everything. The farm. The kit and kaboodle. A Ditka Ricky Williams type trade.

    I want a franchise QB, am tired of aspiring to "masking my QBs deficiencies".

    Lol.

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  11. JStokes

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    Not being able to understand the difference between semantics and what words actually mean, I'm not surprised you are narrow minded.

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  12. Dom

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    i never EVER made that comparison. mangolden showers implied that the 10% of teams that don't cater to their QBs and try to hide their flaws are the teams that make the super bowl. i showed that this is bullshit, as joe flacco and kaepernick are mediocre to above average QBs that are helped seriously by their offensive talent (not this year for joe flacco, but last year)
     
  13. JStokes

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    I think you are starting to confuse yourself.

    Let it go. We aren't taking a QB early, your man Geno is safe, you can rest easy.

    I just hope he doesn't become Quincy Carter.

    Too bad, this is a great year for QBs while last year was an awful year for QBs.

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  14. Mangold Goldman

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    Dude don't argue with this guy, you're better off slamming your head against a wall.

    He only sees one way and if you dare have a differing opinion he'll try to belittle you.

    For instance, do u think he roots for Geno to do well on Sundays? I don't think so, he's a bigger fan of his opinion and being right than anything else
     
  15. Dom

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    i'm not confusing myself, i feel like you don't understand my concept so i'll make it simple for you



    we can win with geno as our QB if we get him weapons, hide his flaws, and play to his strengths. a lot of teams do this. an example is joe flacco an colin kaepernick next year. im not saying geno will be them, but we should follow the same philosophy


    i hope your brain is good enough to handle that
     
  16. JStokes

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    LOLGFY. I've rooted for worse Jet QBs than Geno, he'd on the field so he's my man.

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  17. JStokes

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    My brain understands you perfectly.

    You think Geno is the man and can be made into an elite QB with a few weapons surrounding him.

    I think he has a wonderful arm but lacks football IQ, accuracy, the ability to read defenses and leadership qualities. He came from a gimmick offense and threw screens to NFL WRs against inferior opponents.

    He made some great throws this year. But on the whole was pretty bad and much of it had nothing to do with the lack of talent around him. He threw picks to wide open defenders, ran out of end zones, buttfumbled, had no awareness of where he was on the field, held the ball WAY too long, missed guys completely wide open standing still, had multiple Tebow-like games completing less than double digit passes. Not all of that was on the lack of playmakers.

    This is a GREAT year for drafting QBs, I don't want to miss out on one because we're bent on building around a flawed foundation, masking deficiencies. As it were.

    I hope your brain is good enough to handle that.

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  18. 74

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    THIS THIS THIS

    Geno is C grade at best! He may not even be in the league in a few years. He's a second rounder. Why are you guys so attached to him? I get it, the rest of the O sucks but so does Geno. Develop him and see what happens, hopefully at worst he's a legit backup, but he's not the guy we should be building around.
     
  19. Zach

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    1. BUT THIS GENO KID SHOWED FLASHES HERE AND THERE!:

    So did Sanchez. And he did it with higher frequencies, and with authorities. [Remember the Texans game? He pulled it out with less than 1 minute to go, with no time out, while romping down 80+ yards.]

    2. ALL ROOKIES MAKE MISTAKES!

    What's your fucking point? I was highly irritated when Geno was thrown to the wolves in his rookie season - that's what you are talking about, if you think about it. It is a fault on the organization. By that statement alone you cannot assess the quality of QB in full detail. [But I see you have some emotional attachment to that horror that is Geno Smith.]

    3. HE HAD NOBODY TO THROW TO!!

    So did Sanchez. And he had to suffer Sparano as well - and had more TD (13) and less INT (18) in the worst possible scenario. They were equally atrocious in terms of completion ratio, and we all bitched about Sanchez being inaccurate. Like that 1% will make a world of difference. [55% to 54%, same supporting cast, and Sanchez had worse run support.]

    Maybe assessing the performance of a rookie QB after the first season is not such a good practice. I will give you that - but it would be beneficial for all to know that 1. this kid does not look like he can carry the team on his back. and b. Jets should do very well to invest in QB prospect till they can find one that will. c. And provide some offensive talent support.
     
  20. wisewolf

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    Stay classy man, but you never addressed my post. Ignore it if you want, but it's not in good form to skewer me without addressing the substance of my argument.

    And you keep hiding behind this "I don't anything" veil and voice your complete and total ignorance about the draft prospects. One would think after admitting that you've never watched many of the prospects play, including the guy that you want the Jets to draft in the 1st round, that you wouldn't be so defensive when people have alternative views about draft strategy. Like you keep saying that you want to defer to the experts in the Jets scouting department, and then when people think that the Jets scouting department won't think along the exact lines that you do, you resort to personal attacks. Slow your roll.
     

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