What do you base this statement on? The 49ers are so good they don't need rookies to come in and make an impact.
Well their is no way the 49ers keep all those picks. They will either trade for revis/percy or some other big trade. s if the 49ers weren't stacked already /facepalm At least they're in the NFC and if revis leaves at least he's not in the AFC.
This. I bet my left leg they don't keep all those picks. They will make a big trade. This team is playing to win now.
That does seem like the obvious thing... however, if they were to stay put with all those picks they've accumulated, they could build for today and tomorrow. Somehow I'm expecting them to do the smart thing.
Geez that analysis imo left the tracks in the bolded part, meaning the second part I bolded. The key word is reputation, of course. Right now, there is no reason to believe Revis is planning on holding out this off season. Quite the contrary, he has a few reasons not to, not the least of which of course is his ability to void the last three years of his current contract by not holding out. But more to the point there is no significant reason to think he is going to hold out at any point going forward, assuming a probably drafted extension can be agreed to. Why should the Jets not sign Revis to an extension because some see him having the REPUTATION of a player who will hold out again? And of course he has not held out every other year. At the time he and the Jets entered into their current contract, it made sense for them to have extended modified it LAST off season. Second best would have been to redo it this off season, but that has become complicated by his injury and Woody's apparent newfound penchant to be cheap. Having said that, I do agree it actually would be in the interest of both parties to sign an extension (since that holdout nonsense is not significant). Posters here seem to focus more on the Jets' lack of leverage, but Revis has a real exposure if he does not sign a deal before his contract year, too. Get it done at $13 mil, get Sanchez out of town, and get this team back on the winning track. If Revis is dealt, the Jets will not see .500 or better ball for the next three years, you can bank on it. I have to laugh at all here who blindly assume they will get equal value in a trade and then use draft picks effectively.
It's not all that different from what happened with the 49ers in 1994 when they were trying to catch defending Super Bowl champion Dallas. They made a number of offseason free-agent moves to overhaul their defense, but the puzzle wasn't complete until they signed then-free agent Deion Sanders that summer, a move that solidified their secondary. Result: They not only beat the Cowboys in the conference championship game for the first time in three years; they won their fifth Super Bowl. The point is: The 49ers knew what they had to do to get to the next level, and they did it. My guess is these 49ers know the same thing. They didn't beat Baltimore in Super Bowl XLVII because they forgot how to run when it mattered and because they couldn't go five yards their last three plays. But they lost because their secondary couldn't cover the Ravens' receivers, either, with Joe Flacco throwing three touchdown passes and shredding the 49ers with critical completions -- including one to Anquan Boldin on third-and-inches on the Ravens' last scoring drive. San Francisco must fix the holes that held it back, and it can get there through the draft or by packaging draft picks in a deal for Revis. All I know is the 49ers have more flexibility than they did before, and if I'm them I place my next call to Florham Park, N.J.. Then make the Jets an offer they can't refuse. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/c...ade-will-49ers-next-move-be-on-darrelle-revis
Yeah, the bolded part is starting to concern me. Let's not forget the concerns here that in picking Idzik the Jets went with a GM who had the rep of being a cap specialist rather than a talent evaluator. But even if that were not true of Idzik, you have to wonder at his approach so far. As you point out, Nagle, it is puzzling that he would be giving signs of shopping Revis without even trying to see what a deal to keep him might look like. That in turn has the appearance of coming out of an agreement (meaning acting on the boss's marching orders) that it was the plan this season from the get go to move Revis and not keep him. I was inclined to think Ryan should have been fired, but the logic of keeping him is that you let him take the approach he wants to take. Ryan wants two corners who can cover in man coverage. Revis is an important part of that approach. Who here thinks Ryan wants to see Revis dealt? Also agree that giving Landry top dollar is likely to blow up in the Jets's faces. Landry made plenty of mistakes last year, and the Jets were lucky he stayed healthy. Expecting him to remain so seems like quite the gamble.
Today, the NFL released the tentative round-by-round draft order and the 49ers have four of the top 93 picks. The order does not include compensatory picks, which will be announced next month. Compensatory picks will be awarded at the bottom of Rounds 3-7. The 49ers are expected to have three compensatory picks and one could be as high as the third round, according to CSN Bay Area. Here’s a look at their draft picks: First round: No. 31 Second round: No. 61 Third round: No. 74 (from Carolina) Third round: No. 93 Fourth round: own pick Fifth round: From Indianapolis (No. 24 in round) Fifth round: own pick Sixth round: From Miami (No. 12 in round) Sixth round: own pick Seventh round: From Cincinnati (No. 21 in round) Seventh round: own pick http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2013/02/21/49ers-will-have-four-of-top-93-picks-in-draft/ Add #34. 15 picks in total including 3 comp picks
What would be an ironic twist is if the Jets trade Revis, then go sign Asomugha at a severely lower rate due to what happened in PHI this past season, effectively making Cromartie the #1 and Asomugha the two...
So I only have a knock off Revis Reebok jersey and wanted to get a new Nike one (not necessarily Revis though) so my sister got me a legit Nike one for my birthday...but it's a Tebow jersey. She's a Pats fan. What am I supposed to do with it now? Bitch (just kidding, love my sister...but still...wtf?)
Maybe the Jets(Woody)have zero desire to pay Revis. The Jets already know what the Revis camp is demanding. The last time gave them a clear indication of the type of deal Revis wants. Those demands haven't changed.
I'd trade Revis if it results in a sweetheart deal... Maybe: NYJ: 4th overall + Asomugha PHI: Revis Draft Damontre Moore with #4 and Geno Smith at #9 Asomugha can be a serviceable #2 and Cro stays in the #1 spot. They get the corner they thought Asomugha was.
The fact that he's so willing to make a Revis move without trying to negotiate leads me to believe Woody Johnson is behind it all. Of course I'm going out a limb here and it's my own personal speculation but why would a guy known as a cap specialist not even discuss a deal to try to fit it in the cap parameters? Maybe he will - but as of right now he's reportedly listening to trades but hasn't even talked with Revis' brass. Wouldn't he naturally be the type of guy to do the opposite? I highly doubt he came to Johnson in the interview process saying he thinks they need to trade Revis without having any inside knowledge of the situation or a discussion with Revis' agents. I could see Johnson being exhausted with the Revis negotiation over the years and wanting to rid himself of that. Not too mention, I could see him not wanting to pony up a lot of guaranteed bonuses to keep the guy. To keep Revis and to keep it friendly within the cap, it would take a lot of guaranteed bonus $$ straight from Woody's pocket. Judging by moves the Jets have made in the past - I get the feeling that he doesn't like dolling out his money outside of the money set aside for the team. The two factors could be why the Jets are seeking a Revis trade - Woody's telling Idzik to trade him. Again - my speculation.. and speculation only.
Why bother. You dump Revis, pay Landry, keeping last years secondary intact. Then you pick a better player at 31 then you would have gotten at 39, and at 39, you take the flyer on Mathieu. This kid will play the slot, and eat Welkers lunch.if that's all you get out of it, you've dumped a headache and gained a foothold. And, if you were lucky enough to grab Jordan at 9....An OLB that can cover and started out as a TE...those are exactly the matchups you need to control he east. If you can get those two players the res of the draft should go to the other side of the ball.
why do people just assume the Jets ONLY rely on draft picks if Mevi$ is dealt? It could also include player(s) better than our current roster and or FA's signings (this yr or yr's w/o a bloated CB contract) as we'll have saved (assume worse) 16M per year by not giving a CB (Mevi$) ridiculous money. Shit, you could sign Landry for $6M and any other better free agents OLB/LB QB/OL/RB for the shit you save. Even more $ to sign FA's when we don't have Sanchy's awful contract and redo/restruct Holmes. And if any of our picks work out the next 2yrs, they are playing for peanuts. win/win for rebuilding.
No I judge it on the fact that Revis is coming off of major knee surgery, that they would have the Jets by the balls and that Revis would likely be a short-term rent-a-player for them. Why offer more than you have to?
Let's be fair here. Other than Revis who else have we seen dragged through the mud in terms of a holdout/contract dispute since Woody has been owner? The track record dating back to the Bradway era has been pretty good in terms of getting players signed for fair & reasonable figures in a timely fashion. I would even venture to say that perhaps Woody has been TOO generous Harris/Holmes/Mangold deals. Meanwhile Revis has been a me first money grabber since day 1..dragging the team through alot of turmoil via the media. He's a great player but one player doesn't make a team. At some point the constant contract whining & disruption becomes a liability. When it comes to this topic I'm giving Woody the benefit of the doubt. It's just the Jets luck that they finally have a once in a life time talent & he happens to have a one in a million ego & drive for the mighty dollar.
