Lets see if this helps...say due to a medical condition you're having your balls off'ed in the morning but you have one night left to get her done. You have 2 choices for companionship for your last night. You can have THIS girl for $50 (let's say her name is Kyle Wilson): or, you can sell your house, both your cars, your motorcycle, your jet ski, your mom's car, all your CD's AND your Star Wars collection to have THIS girl for $3,873,356 (let's call her Darelle Revis): It'd be a real tough call.
Your analogy kinda sucks. The Jets aren't having their balls cut off in the morning (figuratively). A relevant analogy is that you've had Kate Upton for the last five years and you know she's leaving you at the end of the month; you have two choices ... 1. Continue to bang Kate Upton for the next month, she leaves, and then that's it, no more sex for you until you can come up with a new girlfriend or 2. You can quit banging Kate Upton right now, and start banging Katherine Webb right now and for the foreseeable future (and she wants marriage and doesn't care that you want a pre-nup). And it's not really a tough call at all.
And the problem here for the Jets is he doesn't need to hold out. He's coming off a year he didn't play. Hell be out all year with a hamstring injury.
Hmm...I keep thinking that the Jets were #2 against the pass because we couldn't stop the run (#26). Teams did not have to pass because they could just run it down the Jets throats. Granted, I think the Jets did well against the pass, but the stature of being #2 was due to the opposing teams run game. Look at the Cleveland Browns last year. They were #2 against the pass, but #30 against the run. After losing Haden, their pass defense collapsed. I'm not taking anything from Cromartie and the impressive season he had, but I think Darrelle Revis is more valuable to this team than people think.
I think it's more that we got so behind, so quickly, in games that the other team was just content to run the ball and go home. It resulted in a statistically great pass defense and statistically poor run defense.
You'd never get a first for Revis bc it's a one year flyer. A second is about the best you'd get, and where we are now you could walk away with Dion Jor Dan at 9. Gilleslee in the second round, and take Mattheiu, somewhere....I doubt he will be A UDFA, so let's say three, and that leaves you with the Revis second to go for any non need position. With three highly athletic talents coming in. Plus losing Revis allows you to pay Landry.
i think a full year of revis is worth a first rounder at least. it's not like baseball where you make a stretch run deal or basketball where you're trading an expiring deal. it's a full year of the best cb in the league. for a contending team, that means a lot. maybe not a top-five pick, but revis should definitely fetch a mid-to-late-first rounder and maybe a decent player if the team's up against the cap and deep in a particular position.
If that were the case we wouldn't have been #2 in opposing completion percentage against and #7 in opposing QB rating. Both stats based on efficiency, so the number of attempts doesn't really matter unless it's off the charts. Our pass defense was very good last year. We also had very good safety play for the first time since Rex arrived.
its been stated on here before, they were also very high in comp. % against and qbr. so it wasn't just about yardage, when teams tried to pass they were not usually successful
I already realized that stat, but look who we went against this season: Below Average or Rookie QB's Fitzpatrick (Week 1): 56.6%, 3tds, 3int, 66.5 rating Matt Moore (Week 8): 57.9%, 1td, 0int, 96.9 rating Fitzpatrick (Week 17): 46.2%, 1tds, 0int, 89.4 rating Andrew Luck: 50%, 0td, 2int, 51.3 rating Russell Wilson: 63.2%, 2td, 0int, 131.0 rating Ryan Lindley: 32.3%, 0td, 1int, 28.0 rating Chad Henne: 48.8%, 0td, 2int, 41.4 rating Jake Locker: 59.1%, 0td, 0int, 79.5 rating Then look at the Average to good QB's we went against: Rothlisberger: 77.4%, 2td, 0int, 125.1 rating Alex Smith : 57.1%, 0td, 0int, 78.1 rating Matt Schaub: 50%, 1td, 1int, 71.9 rating Tom Brady (Week 7): 61.9%, 2td, 0int, 95.2 rating Tom Brady (Week 12): 66.7%, 3td, 0int, 144.5 rating Philip Rivers: 50%, 2td, 0int, 105.3 rating It's obvious that the this team only faced 3, arguably 4 really good QBs during the 2012 season. Some of the below average QB's still took advantage of the defense (based on rating). However, I'll argue that many of the rookie and sub-par QB's skewed the statistics. Completion percentage is utter BS. If the QB can minimize turnovers and score TDs, then that is all that matters. Look at what Joe Flacco did in the playoffs. He had 11td, 0int, and a completion percentage of 57.9%. FYI, here is a list of average and above average QB's for the 2013 season: Brady x2 (Like always) Rothlisberger Drew Brees Josh Freeman (Yes, to my opinion, this kid is a good QB but not spectacular) Joe Flacco (The jets make him look like crap, but he is different than before) Andy Dalton (Same thing as Josh Freeman) Matt Ryan Cam Newton This is a bigger list of average to above average QB's.
That's a lot of good information but unless you're willing to do that type of analysis for all the other teams what is it worth? Not much to me.
If you only pass on clear passing downs, the other team's gonna have great statistics in every category - they know what's coming. I think our defense was a better than average in both run stopping and pass stopping, but because our offense sucked so bad, it resulted in a statistically bad run defense and a statistically great pass defense.
Do you have any evidence that other teams only passed on obvious passing downs or is that something you're just assuming?
I watched the games, does that count? We lost half our games (8) by 10 points or more - that's a lot of vanilla run, run, run, oh we're in 3rd in long, let's pass, run, run; particularly in the second half of games. Our defensive backs were very good this year, but our linebackers couldn't cover anybody and we got no pass rush. The statistically great pass defense was a product of many other factors not related to our ability to stop the pass.
I was not trying to include other teams defense as part of my scope, because I think it would be irrelevant to my point. I was only pointing out why below-average QBs were the reason for skewing the statistic. If most of you are happy about the Jets shutting out teams with below average QB's, then that is fine. On the other hand, you can argue that the defense would play poor at times because the offense could not do anything. Ultimately exhausting the defense. If the Jets can play as a Top 5 pass defense in 2013 without Revis, then I will be more than happy. I trust that Cromartie can play against most of the #1 receivers in the league, but who is going to play against he #2 receivers? Kyle Wilson? Well, Kyle Wilson's main strength to my observation is zone defense. I'm sure if the Jets traded Revis, they would try to get another CB that can play the role as a #2 CB. The only way that the jets are going to be successful against pass happy teams is by having two good CBs.
It's very relevant to your point. Every team plays some shitty QB's, some mediocre QB's and some top level QB's. The top level QB's usually do better than the mediocre and bad QB's. To say that the lower level QB's skewed the numbers without looking at what every other team did against each type of QB is nothing more than a hypothesis at this point. It is very possible that the numbers end up evening out for most teams based on the number of good and bad QB's they face. You could also be right, but you have done nothing to show or prove that. No it doesn't. You're basically using circumstantial evidence to try and say something is a fact, which we all know is not the case.
So that leaves 11-12 games were the other team was forced to play to their game plan? Kinda shoots your theory out of the water, huh?
