I would throw up if the JETS took him in the first round....seriously Benjamin is the definition of "BOOM or BUST" and I hope you're not a fanatical Florida State fan with your premise for taking Benjamin at #18. If the JETS get Jackson in a trade, they might go for a DB in the first round if Dennard is still there but I feel Cooks is the best option with the #18 pick. Decker is 6'3, Nelson is 6'5, Hill is 6'4, and Sudfeld is 6'7, the JETS need to add speed and a potential #1 guy on the outside not another tall so-so receiver that drops easy passes too often because of a lack of concentration.
Oh wow! I love Geno and think he'll be a good QB but you don't pass on Manziel at 18. Hate the Benjamin pick.
Give the Jets Dennard please....I would be shocked if he got past the Steelers. He is a solid cornerback who hung in with some of the best WRs in The Big Ten.
Why did you pass on Niklas or Jimmie Ward for the Jets in round 2 -_- With the players around, I'd love a Dennard/Cooks(I don't know why he's there at pick 60)
His hands are his biggest problem. I would not be happy if the Jets drafted him. I am keeping my fingers crossed that the Jets 1st round pick is Ebron or Beckham. Bruce Ellington in round 2 or 3 would be great if the Jets get Ebron. Ellington has good hands and is very good after the catch.
I'm all about Niklas in rd 2, since one of my favorites, Ebron, will mostly likely be gone. I have no issue drafting Dennard in rd 1, he's a terrific player that has dominated. I've seen a lot of MSU games and Dennard is a smart player with great physical ability.
I still don't know about Niklas as a stud TE but if you want ground and pound and a pretty darn good blocker, he's the one to get. Just wonder if he can get separation on Sundays. He's not that fleet foot. Dennard to me is the safest defensive pick in this entire draft. He relies on fundamentals rather than athleticism and I love that. He was such a pest vs Notre Dame every single time and I've seen a lot of his games since I got Michigan St games more often then not. Dude just hangs in there on the top WR of the opposing side and just grinds it and battles for the duration. He got shafted vs the Irish this past season with some lousy pass int. calls, the dude really doesn't get flagged much if at all as a Spartan though I know NFL WR's are fast and sly and rookie corners never get the benefit of the doubt from the officials. He won't give you pick sixes but he'll more so put himself in the right spot and break up passes. Gilbert is the more dynamic of the two since he's faster and more athletic and has sick break speed but Dennard just looked like he belonged in the pros this past season. I think Dennard can hold his own year 1, which is crazy since the speed of the NFL usually swallows CBs and WRs whole.
[youtube] Actually it was the other defensive back who was getting royally screwed this game lol. This was still pretty bad.
There's only one"stud Te" in this draft. Niklas would be an upgrade over Cumberland. I would love Ebron, but having Niklas added in the mix would improve the offense. Niklas is very smooth catching the ball, solid hands. Niklas isn't fast, but I saw some quickness for a Guy his size. Gilbert is by far the best CB in this draft and his added return ability makes him in a class by himself. You mentioned the fundmentals Dennard displays, I couldn't agree more. Dennard usually looks back for the ball, something very important in the NFL and Dee Milliner needs to improve on. In fact, IMO, Dennard will be a better pro than Milliner. Kyle Fuller is a player that is rising and could challenge Dennard for the #2 ranked CB. Fuller is a better athlete than Dennard. I really like Fuller and come May could be a mid Rd 1 ranked prospect. About the safest defensive pick, I think it will be Mack.
You could also grab a 'ground 'n pound' TE in the 3rd (or with the first 4th round pick) with Fiedorowicz.
I think CJ is under appreciated and will be fantastic value in the 3-4 range. He's not a blazer by any means but his 7.10 in the 3-cone demonstrates his short area quickness that should integrate well into the WCO. Combine that with his above average blocking and he is the TE we need right now. Don't get me wrong, his ceiling is nowhere near as high as Ebron but I think CJ has a higher floor and will be a very productive member of the Jets if we're lucky enough to draft him.
I think people might be a little high on Personally I think it will be damn near impossible to guess who the Jets will take at 18, because there are too many variables in the picks leading up to that. The Jets will go BPA, but that will really be dependent on who the Jets have rated highly behind the scenes. Personally I'm high on Kelvin Benjamin but who knows who the Jets will rate highly. I think I'd be ok with Dennard but unless QBs make Mack or Barr somehow fall, I don't think it will be obvious to us fans who the BPA is.
The two have literally nothing in common other than they are both tall. Hill has bad hands, was very unfamiliar with pro-style route trees, has very little experience, is very very fast, and slender. Benjamin is big bodied, strong, has excellent body control, with natural hands, has NFL speed but is not a burner, and although he needs to refine his routes he is familiar with them. He is all around a much better receiver than Hill was considered leading to the draft.
First, as a big time Notre Dame fan these are my thoughts on Niklas: Niklas should become a very good in-line TE. He's an above average receiver with solid hands, but has only average body control (high pointing balls, etc). This means he won't be quite the red zone nightmare a lot of teams are looking for. He's a very good blocker when he successfully engages the defender, which he usually does quite successfully. However when he does wiff on a block, he often whiffs badly, especially while trying to block speed rushers. As far as Benjamin I want nothing to do with him in the 1st round. In a draft with so many good WR's, picking a guy who's proven to be unreliable with questionable hands is nuts, especially if we're running a WCO. Lee and Cooks look like much better prospects AND fits IMO.
If Lee is on the board I'd take him as well, but in my mock I have the Steelers taking him at 15. I'd take Benjamin over Cooks for our offense. Perhaps not the ground and pound of old, but I think the Jets will still be run heavy so a big bodied, good blocker like Benjamin would be a good fit. I personally think he is more proven than people keep acting, and with the Decker signing I think there won't be a lot of pressure on him to produce immediately. I like the idea of Decker and Benjamin blocking on the outside for us. If we end up with DJax I doubt we take him, but you never know. I think Cooks is going to end up as a legitimate WR 2, but I believe Benjamin will develop into a top 10 WR.
It's cool if you dig him man...Just sayin...the scout on him reminds me an awful lot of Stephen Hill STRENGTHS WEAKNESSES STRENGTHS: Near-tight end size (6-5, 235) with a ridiculously large wingspan, giving him a catching radius that is probably on-par with anyone at the NFL level. Shows the gliding speed and short-area quickness to create some separation and be a terror in jump-ball situations, especially in the red zone. Big hands, good hand-eye coordination and impressive body control to snatch passes outside of his frame. Tracks the ball well over his shoulder. Experienced playing outside and in the slot and shows courage in crossing the middle. Tough to bring down in the open field, using his long arms to effectively stiff-arm defenders and showing suddenness to accelerate once the ball is in his hands. Attentive downfield blocker who works to seal off defenders as well as peel back to take out opponents in pursuit. WEAKNESSES: Still developing as a route-runner, adding to questions about his ability to play a large role immediately in the NFL. While his size is problematic for defenders, Benjamin's length makes it difficult for him to sink his hips and explodes out of cuts, making him much better suited to verticals and crossing routes than double-moves, limiting his fit to certain schemes. Drops too many passes. Allows the ball into his chest too often. Will take his eyes off the ball in an attempt to make the defender miss before actually securing the pass, leading to an occasional ugly drop. Seems to especially struggle with low passes, a problem for many taller receivers. COMPARES TO: Plaxico Burress, Pittsburgh Steelers - Possessing impressive acceleration and a similar frame as the 6-5, 232-pound Burress, Benjamin is a big play waiting to happen. The junior remains rough around the edges, however, making him a bit of a boom-or-bust prospect.
Stephen Hill is much smaller framed than Benjamin, more lean. The biggest difference is that scouts looked at Hill and saw what his athleticism could become. Scouts look at Benjamin and see him doing all of the things they want to see him do in the NFL. He may not be as consistent as you want, but the comparison to Hill just isn't fair to him. When drafting Hill you are saying this speed and athleticism indicate he will be able to burn DBs and win jump balls in the NFL. When drafting Benjamin you are saying the game tape show him using his size and body control to own DBs and win jump balls. Benjamin knows the routes and there is tape of him successfully performing them, although as I said consistency can be improved upon.
You certainly can and I would not mind it. Don't know if CJ has Niklas's upside offensively though but as a pure blocker, he's pretty good and can step in day 1 and contribute.
