Mornhinweg's game calling and the wildcat.

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  1. slimjasi

    slimjasi Well-Known Member

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    Right, but that was really only in one game (the first game in Miami, on Monday night). The second game the Miami offense did NOTHING. Rex can't get over ONE game? It just makes no sense.

    This has been pointed out many times over the past few years by an assortment of different analysts, but just look at the wildcat production for the league as a whole. It's rather pedestrian. It's just not worth messing with your starting qb.
     
  2. NYJFan10

    NYJFan10 Well-Known Member

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    They also had Brad Smith be successful with wildcat type plays but that's a little different since he wasn't a true NFL QB and more of a gadget player that could throw.
     
  3. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    MM called an outstanding game on Sunday. outside of the designed run to Geno at the goaline there wasn't one play I questioned. Amazing feeling having a competent OC
     
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  4. JetDan

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    I am a very big fan of MM(Best O coordinator we have had in years), but I don't think he called his best game this past Sunday

    That Geno fumble, and the play where Geno took a sack, when we should of just ran the ball and sealed the game with a FG going up by 9

    Also, he was getting a little to cute on the goal line, when we should of just ran the ball with Ivory. CJ should not be getting goal line carries.
     
  5. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Do we even know that the fumble play was a designed run? Rex said in his presser on Monday that he'd prefer Geno run for first downs and not touchdowns.

    Seemed like Geno was set for a passing play before a defender showed up in his face.
     
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  6. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Just wait until his system is in its 3rd year. We're still working out the kinks and finding out what works and what doesn't. Hopefully one day, we'll get the read option down pat and use it effectively.
     
  7. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    It's tough to tell. As soon as he gets to the back of his drop he looks as though he's going to take off up the middle when he jokes out the defender that's running free at him by faking inside then running outside. Again its tough to tell if this was by design but the Panthers do it often where they get Cam Newton to the back of his drop and then send him up the gut for the touchdown. The blocking on the play certainly indicated run but I don't think we'll ever know.
     
  8. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    It looked like it was to me. I haven't re-watched the game yet but my memory is that it looked like a design run.
     
  9. Big Blocker

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    How was that sack for losing 19 on Marty?
     
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    He held his thumb backwards on the joystick for too long.
     
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  11. JetDan

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    It was a 3rd and 3 on the 21 yard line. It should of been a run play, not shotgun. If it would of got stuffed, we would of settled for a FG.

    Instead we came out of the drive with no points.
     
  12. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Regardless of the play call there was literally no play in the play book that should've potentially taken us out of field goal range outside of that Vick option throw play.

    Whether you agree or disagree on the play call that was terrible situational football by Geno. Even if he takes the sack by the first rusher we're still in field goal range.
     
  13. Umphpool

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    And thats what really infuriated me take the sack or throw it away !
     
  14. Big Blocker

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    In that case he should be horsewhipped.
     
  15. Big Blocker

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    Exactly. The playcall did not take the team out of FG range. That is all on Smith.
     
  16. irishwhip03

    irishwhip03 Well-Known Member

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    In hindsight I agree..but I also like the aggressiveness to go for the TD and not settle for a FG.

    Geno needs to be smarter in those situations. Know the field position etc. That will most likely , and hopefully , come with time. But plays like that do happen. Gotta credit the Oakland D there too.
     
  17. JetDan

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    It is on Smith, but you need to put your young QB in a successful position to avoid bonehead plays like that.

    I do like the aggressiveness by Marty though.
     
  18. jcass10

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    Getting a bit too cute in the redzone. Give it to Ivory, and he'll do the rest.

    The Geno sack was a terrible call as well. There was no need to be throwing the ball there. Having said that, Geno should have went down. Thte play was ultimately Geno's fault.
     
  19. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    I don't really believe in the "protecting your young quarterback" thing unless we're talking about Smith throwing 65 times. Protecting is a synonym for handcuffing which is something that held Sanchez back from ever evolving as a passer. Throw the entire play book at him and expect him to be able to execute all of them. If he can't he's not the guy.

    And that's not to say there's perfection in every play but a coordinator shouldn't be held back by the quarterback especially after two years in the system now and an offense with sufficient weapons and run game to get the job down. If Geno needs to be handcuffed we might as well start Vick and draft a quarterback next year.
     
  20. legler82

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    Who's more valuable MM or Geno?
     

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