He doesn't say he won't play for three years, he said is it not possible by the time he is 25yo will he be a strong QB. So he may be benched next season and make a breakthrough the season after and then in the third year be a decent or strong QB. So maybe the Vince Young and JaMarcus sarcasm was wasted this time.
Understood, thanks. It's hard sometimes, as regular conversational nuances are lost on a two-dimensional text editor.
For what it's worth, Marshall thinks Hack can go into camp as the starter. http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/...ays-christian-hackenberg-can-win-starting-job
I still pray that Macc trades Petty to a team that knows how to develop a Qb.. The NY Jets are the equivalent of a Qb gulag. The last thing I'd like to see is Petty be transformed into Joey Harrington. I'd rather see Petty just quit and move on to the CFL and get his experience up there instead of the bullshit the Jets will put him thru. Since Macc has more invested in Hack than Petty, why not release Petty then sign some JAG Qb while Hack learns how to be a NFL Qb. In the meantime, Petty can go learn how to be a QB from a team that knows what a QB looks like. The NY Jets are the franchise where old Qb's come to cash out and young Qb's have their careers ended before they begin.
My bold prediction based out of the need for some optimism. Hackenberg plays a full season and by week 17 looks like a capable franchise quarterback. Not even asking for total greatness, just competence and dependability. We'll see, it would be such an amazing turnaround if he could do so, because I've seen zero evidence that this is even a remote possibility.
That's because you obviously don't understand what it takes to play QB, and what it takes to develop QBs. By not having the pressure of preparing to play each week and learn a new game plan, the QBs can focus on working on their fundamentals, learning to read Ds, studying film, learning defensive tendencies, etc. Hack has had to work on his fundamentals. That takes time. Petty has had to learn to read complex NFL Ds and take snaps from under center. I guarantee you if Aaron Rodgers had started his rookie season, he wouldn't have played nearly as well as he did in his first year after sitting and learning for 3-4 years. Brady wouldn't have played anywhere near as well as he has later, either. When a player doesn't play well, he can lose confidence, start pushing, and wind up struggling even more. To play their best, players have to be relaxed and confident and allow their talent and instincts to take over. If a QB is struggling with fundamentals/technique or in reading Ds, he isn't going to play well. It's better to fix those things first, build the player's confidence and then turn him loose. It's not like they're just sitting there doing nothing for 3 years. They're working hard and learning. They're also functioning as scout team QBs and have to learn other team's tendencies, plays, etc.
Well, you're wrong there. It always amuses me when people on these forums think they can accurately assess people they've never met. I spent years coaching QB's and receivers at the HS where I taught. I know I'm not an NCAA or NFL coach, but I still know something about football and also about the learning process. Both kids and adults learn by doing, not by sitting and having people talk at them. Furthermore, people are different which requires their teachers use different learning strategies. What worked for one isn't always best for the next one, and when something stops working, or just doesn't work, adjustments need to be made. Their strengths and weaknesses both need to be accurately assessed and a learning plan developed, according to not only those aspects, but also with an attainable goal at the end of it.I was successful with some kids and less so with others, but it didn't have anything to do with not understanding the job and knowing how to teach. But that's okay, keep up the good work.
I get that, he's a pretty smart guy. The Jets also had Vinny T those years, and there's nothing like him in the fold today. Also, we can all point to QB's who played right away and successfully, like Luck, Mariota, and Prescott. Tory Woodbury sat for two years, never made it. They're all different.
I'm kidding. I have to laugh at somebody trying to passively demean somebody else with some regurgitated bs
Luck was mediocre as fuck his first year and average at best since. Mariota has been alright but I can't tell if this is the best he is or if it's just being on Tennessee that's hurting his numbers. Prescott is a God damned beast.
Agreed. Everyone is different. Though IMO at some point it's playing time that counts. Sitting and Studying will only prepare you to a point as when it goes Live instinct kicks in. Not every franchise has the luxury of a steady QB playing where the young kid can sit and learn comfortably. IMO if you need to sit a QB for more than a year or two especially in a QB starved franchise then he probably isn't your guy .. especially given where and when he was drafted. The dynasty begins in 2020 .. the year Hack gains his NFL QB degree and is ready. FFS Hack should be given a chance to gain experience knowing there's nothing on the line and starting by week 8. I mean I understand that last year he wasn't given enough reps to do so. They better not waste no time this year. If he's not the guy they thought he was then move on. Hack doesn't need to be elite but a guy we can count on every year that's good enough for us to win.
Well, forgive me if I misspoke, but you still made a statement about players learning by doing not sitting, and they're not just sitting doing nothing. You said something similar in your previous post and that's why I responded as I did, because that doesn't sound like anyone who has been teacher or coach to me. I agree with your other comments about learning. No teacher or coach is successful with everyone.
So you actually go to Chruch get down on your knees and pray that the Jets general manager trades a guy not capable of being an NFL starter to another team?Sounds reasonable....
