More Hackenberg...

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  1. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I'm the same way. Sounds like you may be more of a glass half full guy than you give yourself credit for! LOL
     
  2. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

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    I'm curious...what, if any, conclusions do you draw from this?
     
  3. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

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    Well, having rooted for the Jets since they were the Titans, I guess I must have a hidden "optimism gene" hiding somewhere!:)
     
  4. NCJetsfan

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    I'm glad you do!
     
  5. thankyourevis

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    What is going on in this thread. No they are not betting their jobs on hackenberg. They are betting their jobs that we are so far away that the hack disaster doesnt matter. They are betting their jobs on finding a franchise qb next year. Hence the purge. Do you all even watch football. You dont get rid of all your veteren talent if you are gambling every thing on a first/second year qb. We will not be competitve next year and the front office is hoping that this will equate into a top three pick next year. They are not thinking that hack will win 6-9 games and save their job. This thread is a fucking joke and is delusional.
     
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  6. Dom

    Dom Well-Known Member

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    Be nice
     
  7. legler82

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    If self preservation was on Mac's mind he would have drafted a QB; that certainly would have bought him some more time. To his credit he is following some kind of plan, one I don't necessarily agree with but a plan nonetheless. Whether he intended to or not, by passing on a QB he is certainly hitching his wagon to Hack at least for the immediate future. Depending on how the season goes the immediate future may end up being all he has. I'm sure Idzik had a long term plan that didn't include Geno as the QB he would bank his job. Remember Geno was just a perceived value pick that fell to his lap. Despite how poorly he drafted, if the one QB Idzik drafted high panned out he would have gotten more time. It's speaks to not only the importance of the position but its power as well. Going into Idzik's last season we knew we were going to be bad too; yet he still got the boot. So not all losing seasons are created equal. If we stink it up in 2017 while Mac's draft picks, especially Hack, show flashes that's one thing. However, if we lose a ton of games while getting no contributions from Mac's picks at the same time seeing guys he passed on flourish; then oh boy.
     
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  8. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    History always has a way of clearing things up. Especially when it comes to the Jets sooo, lets see what things look like this upcoming TC.
     
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  9. Big Cat

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    How often does a regime go 3 years into its tenure without trying to install their own attempt at a franchise QB? Never.

    I have a news flash. If Mac and Bowles show 3 straight years of regression (10 wins to 5 wins to top 3 pick) and have no hope at QB after year 3, they won't be the ones making the pick next year. The idea that they're planning on throwing a season away after going 5-11 in their 2nd year is "delusional".
     
  10. BrowningNagle

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    I disagree with you. I believe they are trying to tank. they might both be canned when they do but Macc obviously doesn't think so or else he'd gotten some talent on the roster. I don't think this draft where they passed on a bunch of overrated QB prospects says anything at all about their commitment to Hackenberg. They probably just figured none of those guys were any good and well land a QB next year
     
  11. PulseJet

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    It was a calculated gamble not selecting a QB this year. Any QB they selected could have been redshirted. Given none of them are pro-ready they could have gone with McCown, then Hack, then Rookie and they would have been right to do so. Then cut or deal Petty for a 4-5th rounder. But I guess they decided that a 3rd year Petty was better than a rookie Watson or Kizer. I hope the're right.

    As for sucking for a QB, they have no guarantees for the 2018 draft. Watch the Jets go 8-8 and not be anywhere near the top QB's. Or the top prospects dont come out. Or Darnold and Rosen are like Hack as a Penn St freshman when everyone thought he was the new Andrew Luck but fell back to earth. Darnold had a great 1st year as a QB, but he has only really played the position for a year and has 10 game starts under his belt. Rosen has already injured and had surgery on his throwing shoulder. Its insane to think these guys will be locks for the Jets in 2018.
     
  12. JetBlue

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    Where in the first two years were they supposed to implement their own QB?

    Year 1: was supposed to be an evaluation of Geno with their coaching staff, but instead turned into a career year for Fitzpatrick and an almost playoff birth.

    Year 2: was supposed to be a playoff contender led by a veteran QB coming off of a career year.

    How many new regimes are assumed legitimate playoff contenders going into their second year with a veteran QB? If the answer is never then your question is meaningless.

    Fact is there was legitimate reason not to implement their own QB in the first two years, and we don't know what's going to happen yet in year 3.
     
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    This is my reasoning for thinking they're going to start Hackenberg this season.
     
  14. 101GangGreen101

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    Personally, I am excited to see what Hack or Petty can do with a year of some experience. No doubt, Jets cannot tank and more than likely a QB prospect tends to fall due to overanalyzation. Josh Allen is going to work with Carson Wentz's coach so hopefully these guys can continue to improve. Rosen really needs to step up and Darnold needs to fix his release. If anyone stays in school it will be Darnold.
     
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  15. JetBlue

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    They damn well better.
     
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  16. JetBlue

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    Rosen is overrated.
     
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    Rosen couldn't overcome the issues at UCLA. No running game, line was giving up like 2 sacks a game, perhaps he is missing that ability to just make his teammates better. That's an elite QB trait. That's why Winston is special. Rosen does have all of the tools to be very good, but we shall see this year.
     
  18. Attackett

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    Hack is gonna have to be really bad not to start this year Judging by what we've seen of him, I wouldn't write off that possibility completely.
     
  19. BrowningNagle

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    He might be. This is a big year for him. I wanna see him stop being such a pussy and take control and win games on his own.

    He's only played a season and half though so at the end of the day he's as much a mystery as Darnold
     
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  20. legler82

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    You know how crazy that sounds?
     

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