Monday Night Miracle - Entire Game To Be Shown

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  1. RobA

    RobA 2005-2007 TGG.com Most Optimistic Award Winner

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    Watching it again reminded me of what a truly great reciever wayne chrebet was in his prime.

    PS - It's on again now guys!
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I didn't rewatch it tonight but I seem to remember after Jumbo's TD catch the closeup on his face watching the Jumbotron (lol) was close enough that you could count his eyelashes.
     
  4. F Miami

    F Miami Active Member

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    That's exactly what I kept thinking during that game. What a great game.
     
  5. this is my favorite football game of all time and actually is the first football game i ever saw (its what made me a jet fan) please if you have it recorded and are willing to sell me a dvd of the entire game please please please email me at
    highintheskyy@gmail.com
    ive got paypal
    Go Jets!!
     
  6. JUNJOBX2199

    JUNJOBX2199 New Member

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    That year we had 4 amazing come backs The monday night game being the biggest. They should play them all back to back and that would make for a good tape. You could hand it down to your children (Who we all try to mold into jets fans) and say ,watch this learn this love this .
     
  7. JUNJOBX2199

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    I was thinking "Damn Im going to miss my flight back to S.Fla and have to call in the next day . My buddy tried to get me to leave when it was seemingly out of reach ,and I said fuck it ,I already missed my flight and Im glad I stayed. Cried like a baby ,lost my voice for like a week and a half and Had the great pleasure of calling my dad the next day ,It was like an eddie murphy sean "They F@u@#ing won".
     
  8. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Actually what we saw was Vinny calling his own plays and making up for the ineptitude of the coaching much like was done mutiple times hat year as it seemed every game we got behind big early. we came back alot but eventually it caught up w/ us.
     
  9. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Yet we threw the ball an astounding 637 ties that year. That's why e we didn't make the playffs, we relied top heavily on the pass w/ an old QB coming back from a major injury tha forced him to miss 15 1/2 games he year before.
     
  10. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    I can break that season down to one game and say that the Jets did not make the playoffs because Testaverde was absolutely awful in the season finale.
     
  11. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    We threw the ball way too much that year, w/ an old QB coming off major injury and having a workhorse back like Curtis we should have been running more and passing less.

    Vinny deserves a ton of blame for baltimore(I feel like that game turned up 14-0 when he had a fumbled exchange at midfield) but w/o Vinny we don't have a chance to make the playoffs that year. We had 3 miracle comebacks led by Vinny(NE, at TB, Mia), we really were more like a 6-7 win team than a 9 win team.
     
  12. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    He made one bad play in that game against the Ravens that turned into a 14 point swing. We lost that game because of the two PR by Jermaine Lewis. I think its unfair to blame that loss on Vinny. Especially with the amount of points we put up against the best Defense in football

    EDIT - I forgot about his fumbles, but still the 2 PR for TD's stick out in my mind. The INT he threw at the end of the half killed us, but we still could have pulled it out. A lot of blame goes out for that loss.

    The loss to Detroit the week before was typical Jets though...we should have won right then and there.
     
  13. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Vinny got the ball rolling, the fumble up 14-0 at midfield led to Bal's 1st TD then up 14-12 in the final momentns of the 1st half where at worst we should have gotten a Fg to go up 17-12 he throws an INT returned 98 yds for a TD and we were trailing 20-14 at the half. W/o those plays we win, w/o the 2 PR Tds we were tied.
     
  14. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    All of Baltimore's first half points (20) were scored after Testaverde turnovers. One Ravens drive stalled inside the ten (or five), but then a couple plays later Martin was tackled in the end zone for a safety.

    The interception to McAllister was the worst play of the season for the Jets and arguably one of the top five worst plays in Jets history. Simply a moronic pass.
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    The safety wasn't after a Vinny TO.
     
  16. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    What I wrote earlier is correct. Testaverde threw his second INT to Duane Starks. The Ravens drive stalled inside the five and Martin was tackled in the end zone shortly thereafter. How much blame one wants to put on Testaverde for putting the Jets in position to be tackled in their own zone is up to each of us, I suppose.
     
  17. XxAlbert84xX

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    Watching the Miracle game i though the Jets had some pretty damn good tricky plays, i love the Anderson to Martin option if anyone saw that. I think that would be a damn good play to run with Thomas Jones and Leon Washington, with Jones getting the ball tossing it to Washington on the outside. Some wishful thinking. But watching that game it was cool to see how Coles was then as to how he is now. It truly was amazing to see it again,only complaint i have was i wish they would not have cut off the time between plays. I was hoping during the game they would show the replay of that Martin to Chrebet pass that beat the bucs, since they discussed it so much.
     
  18. Jet Blue

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    Puhlease.... I know You're going to Stand on top of the Playoffs again, cover your eyes and ears and scream blah blah blah to whatever anyone says but, Dan Henning ran the offense and that year with Keyshawn gone and all the offseason mess, he ran a pretty innovative offense like he usually does....


    I won't go back and forth with you again, Cuz I know your "I post FACTS and you don't" Routine... But, here's an interesting read if you forgot some stuff... Bottom line is Groh knows more FOOTBALL than Herm ever will.




    Team Turmoil to Team Togetherness


    The Jets aren't the best team out there, but they still should be lauded for their resiliency in the face of a difficult past year

    AL GROH WAS IN THE MIDST of a chair--throwing, venom-spewing tantrum that had his players riveted. The intensity of the New York Jets coach's ire stunned everyone.

    Then again, the team deserved every last curse and scream from Groh's mouth. The Jets had just embarrassed themselves on "Monday Night Football" on October 23, falling behind Miami 23-7 at halftime and looking like amateurs, not contenders for the AFC East crown. So Groh erupted. A while later, so did his players, scoring 30 points in the fourth quarter and beating the Dolphins 40-37 in overtime.

    "You have to give Al a lot of credit for what happened," Jets running back Curtis Martin said after the comeback win. "It was from the heart--it was genuine--and to see him so mad was kind of shocking."

    What Groh has been able to achieve with the Jets has been somewhat shocking, too. Sure, the once-bedraggled franchise was rescued in 1997 by Bill Parcells. In '98, the Jets won their first title of any kind since joining the NFL in the 1970 merger, placing first in the AFC East and then advancing to the AFC title game and leading the Denver Broncos 10-0 before succumbing.

    But those were entirely different times. Parcells still runs the front office (for the time being), but he has no involvement in the coaching, having stepped down after the 1999 season. His hand-chosen successor, Bill Belichick, bolted one day after being elevated last January, which left Groh, the third choice of the organization behind the two Bills.

    The team has new ownership under Woody Johnson, who, along with Groh, opted to trade the Jets' most visible (and loudest) player, Keyshawn Johnson, to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for two draft picks. The team also entered 2000 with a 36-year-old quarterback (Vinny Testaverde) returning from a torn Achilles' tendon.

    After all of that upheaval, as well as a training camp marred by injuries and so-so performances, the Jets seemed poised for a collapse. Instead, they stormed to a 4-0 start, including wins at Green Bay and Tampa. By midseason, they'd made four fourth-quarter comebacks to win, highlighted by that phenomenal rally vs. Miami.

    Using such trickery as flea-flickers, halfback-option passes, and tackle-eligible plays, the Jets have been one of the most unpredictable teams in the league, yet have remained fundamentally sound. Not only did the Jets learn how to compete with their new makeup, but they also figured out how to stick together in, and learn from, pressurized situations.

    "What have we learned?" cornerback Aaron Glenn says. "We will play 60 minutes and not stop playing, even when things are looking bad. That's the most important thing we've done. This is not a 59-minute team.

    "We know that our offense is capable of pulling these miracle comebacks, and we've always had confidence in our offense. And our defense is capable of supporting that."

    The amazing thing is, few teams had more question marks entering this year than the Jets. Foremost among those was the new head coach. Other than six-season stint as a head coach at Wake Forest (1981-86), Groh was a career defensive assistant. He cast his NFL lot with Parcells in 1989 and generally worked for the Tuna as a linebackers coach or defensive coordinator until the day Belichick walked away last January.

    Virtually unknown to the public--Parcells didn't allow his assistant coaches to deal with the media--Groh also was something of a question mark to his players. "We'd seen him and experienced him as our coach," linebacker Mo Lewis says, "but we didn't know how Al would be as the guy in charge of everybody."

    As it turns out, Groh has been nearly as inspirational and inventive as Parcells was. He seized upon Johnson's "star and flashlight" quote prior to the much-hyped Jets-Bucs game in late September, and after New York rallied to hand Tampa Bay its first loss of the season, Groh gave all 53 of his players flashlights with the Jets logo on them.

    "Any one of these single flashlights in a darkened room is obviously not enough to illuminate the room," Groh told the Jets. "A few more illuminated the room somewhat, but it was probably not bright enough to get the job done. Out of the darkness came plenty of light to operate. As long as we all have our lights on, we're in business."

    Groh often has spoken about the need for "being the most team." That message seems to have gotten through to everyone, from marquee players such as Martin, Testaverde, Wayne Chrebet, and Bryan Cox to the special-teamers.

    "I've spoken on a few occasions, and used these words to the team," Groh says. "What's important is not for us to have the most speed or most size or most power or most running game or most defense, but that we're trying to have the most team. Once you have the most team--an idea I believe in very strongly is the best players don't always make the best team, but the best team always wins--then you have to get into what makes the best team. That's What coaching is. You're trying to create the most team out of what you have. Part of it is the intangibles."

    Among the intangibles that made things work for Groh and the Jets was the belief that they proved something down the stretch in 1999. That year was ruined by Testaverde's opening-game, season-ending injury and Parcells' lack of a back-up plan in case his No. 1 quarterback went down.

    But after a 1-6 start, the Jets went 7-2 the rest of the way. They discovered that Ray Lucas, previously a kick-coverage guy in whom Parcells had unwavering faith, could be a pro quarterback. They beat four teams that went to the playoffs in a finishing flurry that lifted them to 8-8. Had they won one more game, the Jets might have sneaked into the postseason, where, several coaches claimed, they would have been a factor.

    "Even sitting on the sideline and watching what was going on, I could sense we'd developed something special, a togetherness and a willingness to work through everything," Testaverde says. "That's a hard thing to find, and when a team has that togetherness, it really helps you accomplish your goals."

    The Johnson trade, allowed offensive coordinator Dan Henning to get even more creative.

    One reason New York's offense has been so effective for much of this sew son has been Henning's ability to create mismatches. The Jets often have used an empty backfield and a no-huddle approach. While opponents have seen such maneuvers before, rarely have they been presented with two running backs spread out with three wideouts.

    And when Richie Anderson and Martin, both fine pass-catchers, move outside, it creates confusion for a defense. Henning is aware of that, so he sometimes shifts Anderson or Martin into the backfield and calls a running play against a spread-out dime defense.

    "Dan adds his own flair to it, and that is what we love," Martin says. "His take on the game keeps defenses off-balance, and that is another thing we like."

    Henning isn't afraid to have Martin throw a pass either, as evidenced by his touchdown to Chrebet to beat Tampa Bay. And he had offensive lineman Jumbo Elliott, of all people, as the main target for Testaverde's three-yard toss to tie Miami in the dying seconds of their epic matchup. He also used cornerback Marcus Coleman as the receiver for a desperation pass at the end of the first half against the Buffalo Bills.

    All have been highlight-film touches, but there has to be more substance than that to win week in and week out, and Groh is doing his best to develop it. His system, particularly on defense, is the same one instituted by Parcells and refined by Belichick. The pass rush, a weak link in recent years, has been sparked by the first two draft selections of 2000, Shaun Ellis and John Abraham.

    No team has a deeper, more versatile set of linebackers, led by Cox and Marvin Jones on the inside and Lewis on the outside. And if Lewis leaves as a free agent after the season--which seems likely--Abraham should be ready to step in. Coleman, meanwhile, was an underachiever until Last year, but now he is as good a cover man as two-time Pro Bowler Glenn, and he makes more big plays.

    Still, this hardly is the most talented squad in the league--or even in the AFC East, for that matter. The Indianapolis Colts have more playmakers on offense, and the Dolphins pack more of a wallop on defense.

    No team, though, has had more intriguing behind-the-scenes machinations in the past year than the Jets. Their ability to overcome such turmoil and field a competitive team is what makes them so impressive.

    Groh likes to talk about the psychology of results, a phrase he borrowed from Parcells. But there also is the psychology of approach, something the Jets appear to have mastered, regardless of what their final record is this year.
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    (I had to split my post into 3 posts b/c of length, I know there is alot of info but read it Jet Blue and you might learn something)


    I have come to the conclusion that you don't believe anything you write, how ccn a halfway intelligent football fan believe that nonsense?

    That O was so innovative that we found ourselvs down nearly every week where we had to scrap the gameplan and then we started playing well.

    key is NOT an excuse, groh decided to trade Key and we were left w/ 2 #3 WR as our starting WRs.

    Did you watch us in 2000? You can't believe anything in this horrible article and it looks like this article was right after the Mon Night Miracle when things were rosy. let's see an artcle at the end of the year:





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