This seems like overkill. He probably got an extra couple million. Overpaid sure, but I dont think it is nearly as crippling as you do. I dont think it affects any moves we want to make next year. Manipulating the cap is not difficult.
Harris is not crippling but the other poster was incorrect about him being off the cap next year. Wilkerson will not come cheap and there could be opportunities to improve our team with a smart trade. If he walks with us getting nothing in return we clearly screwed up.
If the Jets didn't have Williams, Mo could say pay me what I want or I leave, and the Jets would be forced to either pay Mo, trade him, or allow him to leave via FA and only get a 3rd round compensatory pick for him. Any of those options are bad. With Williams, if Mo leaves, they have a seemingly great young replacement already on hand. They shouldn't miss a beat in terms of their play on the field, so it wouldn't necessarily hurt the team. They're not held over a barrel. They may prefer to keep him, but if his demands are too high, they can trade him, get back multiple picks or a quality player or players in return. They have options all of which could help the team, whereas without Williams, none of their options are that good. They either lose Mo and don't have a replacement, regardless of what they get back in trade, or they have to overpay him to the extent that he hinders their cap and may not be able to afford to pay Richardson or other young players as they develop. In addition, they can say with 3 young studs on the DL they can't afford to pay them all top dollar. If Mo really wants to stay here, he should understand that and be willing to stay for less than he might get elsewhere. With Bowles as HC and Mac as our GM, the future looks bright. If the Jets can get a quality starting QB, either by developing Geno or Petty, or trading for or drafting one, the sky's the limit and they could legitimately be a challenger for the Lombardi Trophy. The Jets could trade Mo to Oakland or some other crappy team where he might make great money, but not have a chance to play on a SB winner. Every team has a salary structure that they develop to suit their needs and priorities. When you have to overpay to keep a player you can throw that salary structure out of whack, having an adverse affect on the cap. Revis of a few years ago is a prime example. He wanted way more money than a CB should make. There are more important positions on a team. That and with the other contracts they had made it impossible to pay Revis and that's why they traded him. In that situation, they didn't have his replacement on hand.
Exactly, besides he had 123 tackles and 5.5 sacks last season, pretty decent for a 31 year old. Some people don't seem to realize we didn't have good enough options to replace him and we HAD to spend money. While it wasn't ideal to pay him 15M guaranteed, we had to, he would've gone elsewhere and we'd be having only Davis as the best MLB on the team. On top of all that, he is a great leader and will aid in the transition to Bowles' defense.
Lol I guess you're new to pro football. 4 yrs 18mil is not a big contract, it it's a rookie contract under the rookie pay scale and it was already expected. It means nothing to the Wilkerson contract negotiation
F#ckin' A! Like what the Russian poker player-boss who lost to Matt Damon in the movie "Rounders" said to his crew; "Pey dat man he's moun-ey"!
Williams got the contract everyone knew he was going to get. All rookie contracts are slotted now and there is really not much variance. No effect on Wilkerson as far as the contract he signed.
Seems like a simple situation to me. You do not extend Mo right now. You watch this year play out, and if Williams lives up to the hype and shows he can be as good or better than Mo, you have to explore trading Mo if you can get a 1st+ back. Our DL would not miss a beat and now you can round out the team by drafting a new starting set of tackles and/or MLB of the future. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Now those multiple picks + Williams are on rookie deals for a while and we don't have Mo's cap hit. In the off chance that Williams busts, now you resign Mo. I love Mo as much as the next guy but this is business Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
McClain is a sound tackler. and is a better overall player then harris. and at the very least is certainly not 5M per year worse then harris. It was an idiotic signing. we should have offered harris 1.5 to 2.5 M and if he didnt want it tell himt o walk. then give that savings to Wilkerson. now we have the most expensive 1 to 2 down player in the league. only problem is harris cant cover. but hey, after his guy catches a 12 yard first down on thrid and long he is good at tackling him i guess
Jets chose paying harris over bumping/extending wilkerson. i think that is what it will end up coming down This is just flat out WRONG. there were other ILB free agents, and guys that made FRACTIONS of what we gave him. McClain, Robertson, Spikes, Foster, Irving, Lofton, Mauluga If you dont like mcclain and would prefer more a run guy fine, spikes, mauluga, irving all avsailable, all MUCH cheaper. spikes signed for 3.25M, irving signed for 3 years 9.25M ,Mauluga signed for 3 years 12 million. thats 3-5M you could have used on wilkerson. it was a terrible decision to sign harris. especially with bowles here, he is going to play tons of nickel which could force harris to the sidelines even more often
Harris is a 31 year old 2 down player who is average at best Wilkerson is a 25 year old all-pro talent entering the prime of his career nowhere near the same thing. id compare it more to harris getting his first deal. not harris recent contract
you are missing one scenario.... williams plasy well, but wilkerson reaches a new hieght into JJ watt type territory.
unless that first round is a top 5 pick then it doesnt come close to making up for it. Peterson, at 30+ years old, coming off missing most of last year, having a high salary, and playing one of the least valuable positions is not a valuable commodity and not something i even entertain trading wilkerson for. im not sure given his age, his missing most of last year and his contract that peterson is even a positive value via trade.
