Because the Jets do not have to pay silly money to a QB because, lets face it, they don't have a top one. There should be money to do what management wants. Remember though that in the modern NFL offense wins. Suh is a terrific player but the Lions and the Fish never make the playoffs. Never overpay for defense.
No defensive player in the league deserves Suh type of money, including Mr. Suh himself. The only guys who deserve that kind of money are elite quarterbacks. In a league with a hard cap as restrictive as the NFL's, no other position is important enough to garner that kind of money.
Yes I apologize I misread the post I thought you were implying that we should trade Mo. I can't imagine teams are lining up to trade for Richardson. He's been good in the run game but literally non-existant in the pass rushing capacity. I hate to be the guy that singles out a players great game but without his 3 sack performance vs. the Vikings last year he has 12.5 sacks in 39 career games. He's a good player but I can't imagine a team trading big value for a 3-4 defensive end. I could be wrong though, and he is playing outside linebacker this year. I think I'd rather resign Mo and just ride out Richardson's contract keeping the 3 together for another 2 full years. If we were ever going to trade a player it was last offseason with Mo but we rightfully didn't because we would've been selling low. I just think our FO and Wilkerson are incredibly far apart in negotiations. I imagine Wilks camp wants a McCoy/Watt/Suh/Dareus type contract to the tune of $14-16 million a year while our front office wants to give him a Heyward/Campbell type deal of $10-11 million a year.
He will be franchised before he can walk. Either someone will have to fork over 2x 1sts, or Wilkerson will extend after franchise tag. I wouldn't mind either options. It will surely hurt trading Mo for 2x 1sts, but that would mean quite a few things, like: Getting 2x OLBs Getting the OL fixed once and for all Out of many other possibilities. Jets D won't lose a beat - as they STILL have Richardson and Leo.
As far as I know the highest comp picks are at the end of the 3rd round. Even if he walks, I can't imagine the NFL awarding us any given all the money we just spent.
I think the franchise tag will be around $18M. I don't see Macc paying that. If it comes to the tag, Mo will be tagged and traded, hopefully for a 1st and 3rd. If Mo was our only good lineman that would suck, but with Shelly, Snacks and Leonard (plus Muldin crashing the edges) we would still be richer than most. Not as good as we are, but still a top 5 D-line. And if Macc can turn those picks into something special (like a future franchise QB) then it will all be worth it.
"Suh money" aside, I'm convinced Mo is the better player. The Jets need to retain this man he is still improving and I'm ecstatic about it.
I disagree. This smells like the classic contract year spike for Mo. I am always skeptical when a player has a career year in his walk season. Never going to happen once he gets paid. Look at Mario Williams for a perfect example. Enjoy this year and let him walk. Sent from my Nexus 9 using Tapatalk
Hell no. Mo is a beast that is just hitting his prime and getting better. Fitz is a blessing in disguise in so many ways.. assuming we can get just ONE more season like this from Fitz until Bryce is ready saves us a shit load of money. No bringing in Drew Brees, or needing to pay Fitz Drew Brees type money.. I think we can pay Mo after this season when we drop cro and tweak around with Bricks contract. Richardson fucked up.. he's gonna have to wait it out like Mo did before he gets paid. Frontload Wilk's contract until it's time to pay sheldon... if we pay sheldon. (we still won't be paying a franchise QB by then, and Revis will be done getting huge money, and Brick may be gone by then... Mangold will be getting an old man, team friendly contract by then too).. i honestly think it can work.
Mo should get a huge contract from us and he absolutely deserves it. When you have the QB situation we have, it gives us the ability to pay a guy like Wilkerson the money he deserves. Fitz will likely be signed to an extension worth around $7 million a year. That's a tiny contract for a QB who's winning us games and potentially taking us to the playoffs. Because of it, it now allows us to open up the books on guys like Wilkerson and Revis. Wilkerson needs his money and he needs to stay a Jet. If we can't put this deal together it will royally piss me off. If we had a Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers at QB, than it is understandable to lose him. But with our QB set to make something minor in comparison, there should be no excuse. You build a defense around a guy like Mo Not to mention, I can't imagine the year he will have if we had an OLB that could pass rush. Wilk would fuckin feast every game
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...kerson-earned-big-sack-cash-article-1.2474589 Jets' Mo Wilkerson has earned big sack of cash, but no rush to deal NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Wednesday, December 23, 2015, 1:00 AM Peter Morgan/AP Jets DE Mo Wilkerson is having a standout season for the Jets. The Pay-The-Man police is out in full force again with predictable demands that lack foresight. Mo Wilkerson’s standout season has prompted these armchair brainiacs to implore the Jets to dole out whatever-it-takes cash for the fifth-year defensive lineman. You should have signed him to a blockbuster contract extension before the season, they insist. It’s foolish to suggest that the Jets erred by letting Wilkerson play 2015 on his fifth-year option. He is a very good player playing at a high level in Todd Bowles’ scheme, but let’s not kid ourselves. Wilkerson is not in J.J. Watt’s stratosphere. Teammate Sheldon Richardson has a higher ceiling. Wilkerson’s terrific 2015 campaign and solid first five seasons warrants a raise. His team-high 12 sacks helped earn him his first Pro Bowl berth Tuesday, but it’s myopic to tell the Jets to back up the Brink’s truck. WHAT'S ON JETS' CHRISTMAS LIST? A RETURN TO AFC PLAYOFFS The Jets should make an effort to secure him at a fair price, but why overpay when they already have a more dynamic and versatile player (looking for his own payday in a couple years) and a relatively cheap first-round rookie on the defensive line? Wilkerson seemingly had leverage this summer after Richardson’s off-field troubles surfaced, but the dynamic has changed in the past five months. Richardson has stayed on the straight and narrow path. Rookie Leonard Williams has shown promise. The Jets have wrestled back leverage. It’s unrealistic to believe that the team will sign Wilkerson and Richardson to blockbuster extensions despite the growing salary cap in the coming years. One of the two will have to take significantly less than what he believes he’s worth. Spoiler alert: That’s not happening. “At the end of the day, it’s a business and guys have to make the best decisions for themselves,” safety Calvin Pryor told the Daily News. “If they want the money, go after the money. If they just love the game and love being a team player, be a team player. But that’s their decision. I’m going to be happy for them regardless.” MEHTA: JETS LOOKING - AND PLAYING - LIKE ACTUAL WINNERS Jose Yau/AP Wilkerson has teamed up with Sheldon Richardson to form a formiddable pass rush. FOLLOW THE DAILY NEWS SPORTS ON FACEBOOK. "LIKE" US HERE. The Jets can use Wilkerson’s career year to their advantage. His outstanding play should make both sides happy. GM Mike Maccagnan will almost certainly apply the franchise tag on Wilkerson after the season to maximize his options this offseason. If the two sides can’t agree to a fair compromise on an extension, the Jets should explore a tag-and-trade scenario. The divide on fair value last spring was so wide that Wilkerson’s camp opted to table in-season discussions. Both parties knew at that time there was little chance that the financial gap would be bridged. The Jets could use Wilkerson as a valuable bargaining chip to move up in the 2016 draft and land a quarterback, edge pass rusher or other position of need. Wilkerson gives them flexibility to continue to fortify the roster with young (and affordable) talent. Teams were interested in Wilkerson in the run-up to last year’s draft, but nothing went beyond the exploratory stage. It’s reasonable to think that the Jets would want at least a first-round pick in any trade scenario this time. The tricky part is finding a team willing to pony up a first-rounder and pay Wilkerson the $40-plus million in guaranteed money that he desires. There is no real doomsday scenario for the Jets. If they simply slap the franchise tag on Wilkerson without dealing him, they buy an additional year to make sure Richardson, who could be facing league discipline stemming from a July arrest on alleged misdemeanor traffic violations in Missouri, stays out of trouble. JETS-PATS HIGHLIGHTS: THE TOP 10 MOMENTS Keeping the defensive line trio intact would also give the organization more time to monitor Williams’ development. The most significant downside would be playing Richardson out of position as a stand-up outside linebacker at times. “Pick your poison,” cornerback Antonio Cromartie said of the defensive line trio. “Who do you want to block? Who you want to double team? So, there’s going to be some 1-on-1 matchups.” Wilkerson is the first in line for a significant pay raise. Richardson will enter next season on the final year of his rookie deal. Williams obviously isn’t going to get his big payday for a while. So, it’s Wilkerson’s time. He’s been exceedingly patient, but the Jets shouldn’t overpay given their other assets along the defensive line. Wilkerson can be a powerful bargaining chip for the organization. He’ll get his money. It might just not be from the team that drafted him.
Looking back a few years from now Snacks is probably going to be the best value of our current free agents to be.
I can imagine 2 scenarios for Wilkerson - let him hit the FA and paid by other team, collecting a 3rd round comp pick - placing franchise tag on him and trading him for a higher value than 3rd round We will use our 5th year option by Sheldon. If we would sign Wilk for long term in this offseason, wouldnt have so much cap space and probably we will need to sign OT, RG and CB2.
Wilkerson had 10 plus sacks two seasons ago, and had 6 in 13 games last year. Plus, I don't believe Wilkerson is the type of player to slack off once he has a big contract. You keep Wilkerson if possible.
I originally voted BOTH, and I still think if we can swing it cap-wise, that's the way to go. By all means! But if I had to pick one, I'd say Wilkerson for sure. He's just a better player, and he's also more mature and reliable.
