Mets @ Reds 9/3-9/5

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  1. Yisman

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    stop popping it up, reyes.

    there goes his short hitting streak
     
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    The lost day for Reyes continues.
     
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    holy crap, nationals win with a walk-off double. flores doubles off gregg with 2 outs and runners at the corners. washington wins 4-3. big for me.

    top 8th in atlanta, 4-2 phillies
     
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    I've certainly been plenty vocal about wanting to see more of Milledge, but Green faced righthanded pitchers in 3 of his 4 at bats tonight, so I don't really see what the big deal is in this game.
     
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    keppinger and gotay were traded for each other, and now they're playing against each other

    keppinger has been very hot. batting over .360
     
  6. 3rdAnd15Draw

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    because milledge is a better player then green. he should be getting the majority of the AB's not riding the pine.
     
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    My rotation would be Endy, Milledge, Gomez(rare start vs lefties + PR). Green would be strictly a PH, or not even on my post-season roster.
     
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    If you want to make the argument that Milledge needs at bats to see how good he is I understand, but the jury is definitely out as to him being better than Green right now, especially against righthanded pitchers, where Milledge has been a joke all season (.676 OPS, compared to over .800 for Green).
     
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    Wow.. I just tuned in... Reyes and Wright a combined 0 for 10, and the Mets have scored 11.... How did this happen?
     
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    Lo Duca happened. people got on before him (beltran, delgado, alou, green), and he cleaned up.


    Gotay has only played 4 games at SS in his career, but I say we give him some practice over the next few games, at least. probably too much to hope for, though. best we can get is probably reyes sitting tomorrow.
     
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    schoenweis warming up
     
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    I'm going to agree with statjeff and say that at this point, green is still a better option than l-millz against most righties.

    7th inning on, green should be PH for if he's going to face a lefty, though.
     
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    if braves weren't done after we swept them, they are now. they're 8.5 back. I guess Teixeira and the other players they acquired weren't saviors, after all.

    wickman was let go, of course
     
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    Five in a row.
     
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    Green has been living off that first month-ish for the entire year now, I'm tired of seeing it cited as proof that Green is still effective against RHP. In March and April he put up a .403/.444/.642 line against RHP. He started to tail off a little in May but still managed a respectable .268/.328/.463.

    In June the tailspin started and he had a pathetic .184/.244/.342 line followed up with .300/.319/.386 for July. He managed just 5 rbi in these 2 months. His numbers improved a little in August .333/.404/.400 but once again absolutely no power, he had just 3 doubles for his only XBH of the month.

    Remember that these numbers are what he's done only against RHP, I don't think I need to detail the tales of woe and misery that are Green's LHP splits this season.

    At best you've got a dinker and dunker that occasionally will find some holes against RHP and come up with a few singles all the while playing subpar defense in the outfield. And this is the guy that is getting AB's over our exciting, immensely talented prospect. There's no defending it.
     
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    The big deal is that we don't trust Willie to take him out vs lefties. I'm OK with him playing vs righties, but I'd much rather see Endy or even Gomez, and he should come out at the very first hint of a lefty.
     
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    Gomez isn't really an option right now.
     
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    It is in fact easy to defend, since our "exciting, immensely talented prospect" has been pathetic his entire career against righthanded pitching. I get that you hate Green, but you sound ridiculous when you try to claim that L-Millz has earned at bats against righthanded pitching. He has a lifetime OBP against righthanded pitching of .285, and a lifetime slugging percentage of .390 - in other words, worse than the supposedly pathetic Green had for any month but June. Green has been the Mets' third-best OF against righthanded pitching all year (other than in June), and it isn't even close.
     
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    As LTS noted Gomez isn't an option now, and sadly (since he's so easy to like) Endy's numbers against righties this year are as bad as Milledge's.
     
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    His entire career that consists of what, 200 ABs as a 21 and 22 year old? Last year he didn't hit lefties well, this year he's raking against them. A few weeks ago he was flailing wildly at pretty much any breaking pitch he saw, lately he's been laying off or not trying to do too much with them. He's got a .385 career minor league OBP, the walks are going to come at the major league level as he becomes more comfortable with the pitchers. In order to do that he has to you know, play.

    Even if you allow that neither of them are very good against RHP at this point, one guy has a future with the club and the other doesn't.
     

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