Yes, I do agree that all of them are somewhat raw, but production plays a huge role in draft stock, which is why I feel a lot of people on here, including myself, are leery of taking him at 9. Yes, I have read that he was playing in a lot of QB contain schemes, but Jarvis Jones, although having some raw features, produced a TON in one of the hardest, if not the hardest, division in college.
Are you seriously thinking about Mingo at 9? We don't have the luxury to take ANOTHER project. We need a proven player at the 9 spot. Mingo would be an excellent 2nd rounder. Fortunately the projects we've taken in the past haven't worked out. Mingo doesn't lift, he won't even work in sub-packages, dude will get thrown around like a rag-doll. At the point of attack, you need strength, Mingo has none. There's no way he succeeds in the NFL with no strength. It'll take him years to develop that - do you really want to wait 3 or 4 years for this guy to deveop? He has no experience as a 3-4 OLB. He's not a first rounder at this stage - his stock should honestly plummet. If you want Mingo, the Jets better trade down and pick up an extra 2nd rounder - drafting him with the 9 is absolutely insane.
Yeah, everything was going along swimmingly until I read that part. Bell's play alone was a big upgrade over who previously manned the safety position. Landry made the Pro Bowl! Based on his assertion I hope the next 2 safeties continue to decline the position...
not bad. i actually think the league wide disrespect that defense had for Sanchez also made it more difficult to run. shonn Greene took the first half of every season off. the jets linebackers were probably slower than some teams' D lines. I think they could be better too with a nice draft. And I am very comfortable with the new G.M.
The defense will be nasty. RR has never had a consistent passrush to compliment his coverages and in 2013 we SHOULD have the ability to get to the QB without overload blitzing.
I got news for ya..outside of Dion Jordan & Perhaps Werner(Who isn't an impact player) everyone of the OLB prospects are projects in one facet or another. 3-4 years to develop strength???Really? The guy ALREADY put on 10 lbs of mass since the end of the season & looked damn good at the combine carrying it.Take a look around the NFL. Strength & conditioning programs have come a long LONG way.If anything lack of strength is one of the easiest things to combat in a prospect b/c of the modern day training programs. It's not as if Mingo doesn't have the frame to pack on more muscle either. He's 6'5 w/ long arms & legs. NONE of the OLB prospects this year are ready to shoulder the load of being a full time 3-4 OLB(The exception being Jordan). As they work on their specific weaknesses they will need to be able to contribute as sub package/pass rusher types.That's a role Mingo can flourish in while he packs on muscle & learns how to set the edge on 1st/2nd down.
If the Jets take Mingo Rex had better like him and he'd better be around to turn all that potential into something. When I watch the film on Mingo I get the creeps. Nobody should have that much athletic ability and seem invisible at times. He's got the body of a tweener though. Tween Power Forward and Small Forward.
With a player like Jarvis Jones Im worried about his 4.9 40.... For an edge rusher you need to get to the QB or Ball Carrier in a hurry... Im on the fence about him yes he had a productive college career but will that translate over to the pros. We cant have another 1st Round miss like Gholston. I think Player like Dion Jordan, Mingo, Ansah are player we should shoot for because speed is what we need. We have to get younger and faster and since we arent winning the Superbowl next year unless we pull off the Season of the Century. Then we do have time to develop those players and with players like Coples and Wilkerson up front they will create plays for those guys to just cause havoc. I could see them easily racking up 5-7 Sacks .
The thing about Mingo is that he's not going to be a cookie cutter player. He's not going to be a dominant pass rusher. He's not going to be an edge setter in the 3-4 who can dominate in the flats. He just doesn't look like he has the OLB attributes, particularly in a 3-4. Taking a guy up high who was a 2nd Team All-Conference guy in a tough conference is not without precedent for the Jets. That's how we got DeWayne Robertson.
jets lose 51-0 mark sanchez goes 4-34 for 15 yds with 6 ints and a fumble hobbes: none of this is mark's fault!
i dont care about his 40 time, his tape speaks for itself. dude is a monster, never gives up on plays, good in run support, just an all around play maker on defense. i want jarvis jones so bad i can taste it. he will step onto the field day 1 and make his presence known.
If I have to spend the rest of my life reminding people Jets didn't trade a 1st rounder straight up for Jolley I will. They traded a 1st and got back Jolley, a 2nd rounder and two 6th rounders. Not saying it was a good trade, just providing facts.
i have a hard time giving much credence to the lead article when he missed two big factors. The first as others have noted was that Landry did not have a down year, duh. It wasn't all good - too many stupid penalties, and Landry is not speedy at safety, but the dude made the Pro Bowl. He will be missed, and not just that, the Jets right now appear to be down two starting safeties. Speaking of being down two, the other thing he totally missed is the situation at OG. He mentions RT, which of course was far from great, but today that is not the main concern on the OL. The Jets got Colon, but he's probably not dependable. I still think they need to go OG in a high round just to invest in the OL's future. I love the homers here who count the tough losses from last year as should have been wins. What about the lucky wins? First Miami was a gift to the Jets, and if Arizona had not started the worst NFL Qb I have ever seen, and McElroy (our third stringer) had not led the Jets to a TD, the Jets would have lost that game, too. And don't forget all the huge losses - the Jets were so far out of some games last year it was embarrassing. Add in the very weak schedule. I don't see much from last year to say the Jets were unlucky ending up with a 6-10 record. If anything, just the opposite. But going forward? It all depends on Qb. If Muck is still the Qb, this team might be lucky to win 4 games, especially if Revis is dealt.
The only thing w/ our D is they weren't quite as good as most people think. B/c we were so bad on offense and opponents basically knew as long as they didn't turn it over they could beat us they played conservative and protected leads.
Never believed in addition by subtraction which is what half the article is about... if that was the case then why didn't they just bench those guys? (Greene, Pace, etc.) The article seems forced because at this point in time there's no way you can actually think this team will be better. Outside of his comments on Holmes he doesn't really say why anyway.. I also don't believe in the mantra that the offense can't get any worse than last year.. It most certainly can
I agree with you; Jarvis Jones is the player we should target. He's a football player. Last year, the kid from ASU, Vontaze Burfict, had off the field problems, and then had a terrible combine, running the forty in over 5 seconds. He went from being projected as a first or second rounder; to going undrafted. The Bengals signed him, and he led the team in tackles.
