Mekhi Becton

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  1. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    the raiders didn't even have clelin ferell active week 1. he was the 4th overall pick the same year we took Q. they took him over DE josh allen. JD already admitted his mistakes with robby anderson. He seems aware enough to know when he fucked u;. he won't hold onto becton if becton isn't good. but you guys are shitting on someone for no reason. he's the least of our concerns
     
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  2. Ralebird

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    Who says his weight is holding him back? Really - that's why I asked for specifics here. It seems that many have taken an idea from a year ago and have ridden it like a government mule whether there is any basis in fact. Now, we just get a blanket denial that there is anything else wrong with his technique, quickness or other abilities. Is there a fact basis for any of this?
     
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  3. REVISion

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    Which single player is currently a bigger concern than Becton?
     
  4. REVISion

    REVISion Well-Known Member

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    We're connecting dots because he was getting beaten by speed rushers all offseason and got beaten badly on some speed moves vs. the Panthers. It seems logical to think perhaps he's too slow to deal with them due to being too heavy.

    You may not agree, but it seems like a reasonable take to have.
     
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  5. ukjetsfan

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    ... in a very literal sense.
     
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  6. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    Mcgovern, GVR, fant, the TE and RB groups. the Lbers. take your pick.
     
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  7. BrowningNagle

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    I mean you could use your eyes. He's big and he's been getting beat a lot. I don't think he would have forgetten how to block. So what could be the other explanation?

    Why did he throw up in the huddle and leave the game in the philly practices? Irritable bowel syndome? Possibly. But I think the more likely explanation is that the 380+lb man was/is fat and out of shape
     
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  8. REVISion

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    Becton plays a more important position than all of them and was much more expensive in terms of the resources given up to acquire him.

    He's also by far the most injury prone member of our entire team other than Cashman.
     
  9. Ralebird

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    It's not that I don't agree his weight may have been a factor but to base every assumption on a single unattributed line from a single reporter last year and letting it build from a slow drip into a cascading waterfall of opinion is a bit over the top. Why did no other writer carry the torch and fill us in in the supposed "discipline" Becton faced? Why did we get only crickets from the entire rest of the beat writers - the real ones, not the Twitter guys who only pass along what they read?

    How heavy is too heavy and how heavy is Becton? Were those pictures of him in the gym photoshopped? It would seem like the new unit put in place to oversee these health and training issues would be the decision makers in this circumstance. How can anyone discount any other factor in his problems this off season? What "seems logical" often is not; "perhaps" too many here are leaping to conclusions - it's not like that hasn't happened many times before.
     
  10. Ralebird

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    So, are you walking back your statement that his weight is his only problem? You can guess at what's going on but to lay it out as fact rather than opinion is getting a bit ahead of the game. I prefer to keep an open mind - like considering maybe he got a bad piece of grilled fish or a tainted grapefruit for his breakfast the day he puked.
     
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  11. BrowningNagle

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    Ok, yeah maybe it was the rotten grilled fish after all. Thats a good call.

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    And yes, weight is his only problem *physically*. He is obviously big enough to push anyone around. He has shown quick feet in the past and has a great reach. The only roadblock is if he puts on too much weight. The potential is there to slow him down and have a greater risk of injury.....

    and....oh look how his season is going!!
    (slow, tired and injured)
     
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  12. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Typical RaleBird banter. Question everyone to death why they think something or where they read it or who the source is or how irrelevant X,Y or Z is rather than actually discuss anything about the topic and formulate an opinion.
     
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  13. bicketybam

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    I wasn't very active last season. Was the Becton hate in full force then as well or did it just start this off-season?
     
  14. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    No. He was revered and probably over hyped which has lead to a downtrodden opinion this season.
     
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  15. bicketybam

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    D'Brick took a few years to develop. I'm not sure why everyone is piling on Becton one game into his second season. I mean I know the media made it a big story in training camp about how he was getting beaten like a drum but I was waiting to see him in regular season action. It's hard to judge him when the entire OL looked like calcified dog shit but I can't say he was awful like some people. Max put together a pretty good analysis that's says he was at the very least ok. How many starts does he have in the NFL? All of a sudden he's a bust?

    Some have pointed out that OL is truly a team position. A lot of how good or bad you look depends on your teammates. Becton really doesn't have any compent players on the OL right now. He's swimming in a sea of shit. And then he gets hurt on a play that would have hurt anyone and all of a sudden it's because he's "injury prone" and fat. I won't even get into the fact that some of the people that are killing him for missing time had no issues with our last QB who missed time every year he was with the team. At the end of the day a LT missing time is nowhere near as bad as your starting QB missing time, but that was ok. I really don't get it. This is a beaten down fanbase.
     
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  16. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    I think more people are concerned with his injury record now tbh, it doesn't matter if people did or didn't worry about Sam, some did, some didn't, those that didn't were still full of hope that we hadn't fucked an FQB up, unfortunately, we had.

    The guy played well as a rookie last season but in a different scheme, he doesn't look as comfortable in this new scheme, hopefully, he will pick it up but this new injury is a double setback on that front, less time in the middle learning and more time sat at home, hopefully, not eating shite.

    We are a beaten-down fanbase there is no denying it.
     
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  17. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    He's played less than one game in the new scheme and was the best OL out there. Holy shit.
     
  18. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    He played in it all off season.

    But if it is just going to be shitty replies like 'holy shit' then what is the point?

    You asked a question, I gave you a reasonable reply, not particularly all my own thoughts or feelings, as evidenced by the use of 'i think more people are' but yeah HOLY SHIT.

    Goodnight.
     
  19. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    He played it all off season. Ok.
     
  20. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    D'Brick never regressed. He had a rough rookie season and then was a plug and play plus starter until he retired while missing one snap his entire career.

    You can make the argument RE: teammates in run blocking but as a whole you can't in pass blocking especially when the Jets were purposefully isolating him on a single guy (other than the one miscommunication play between him and AVT) because they felt he could handle it.

    There is no scheme growing pains in an isolated pass blocking situation.
     

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