It's very telling that everyone who disparages Mcelroy thinks Sanchez is good. If their track record is the same on Mcelroy as it is on Sanchez, he's due to win 15 superbowls.
I think neither one of them is even close to starting QB material. We don't have a starting QB on the roster. Sanchez needs to go, we need a real number one guy, an experienced backup and McElroy can stick around and compete for the number 2 spot.
Strong arms are for hail mary passes. Other then that if you can throw a tight spirel at least half the field, Then your fine. The kid is smart and can be a backup on any team. Look at Henne,Flacco,clemens,carr,vick,. Shit look at jeff george. The guy had the strongest arm in the league and did nothing. Remember Kyle boller threw on one knee thre the FG post? How did his career turn out? McElroy has a decent arm and likes to run short smart plays. Look at brady. He has a rocket and his game is short passes and once or twice he throws the deep ball a game.
except for observations from the coaching staff and what we actually saw, even though you seem to think otherwise...his arm strength is improved...he doesnt have Kurt Warner or Brady arm strength, but he isn't Pennington either. You make it seem like he throws up arm punts.
McElroy will make a great career back up. I want a QB who can win us games not just keep us from screwing them up. That is what a back up does.
It never ceases to amaze me how many people simply believe whatever they are told. How do you know he's only a backup? He's 1-0 in the NFL. Are you psychic? The only thing that is indisputably true about Mcelroy is that *NOBODY* knows how he will perform as an NFL quarterback unless he is given a few starts to see what he *ACTUALLY* does. In football, and in life, you'd do well to be much more skeptical about what you are told. If what you did on the practice field equated to NFL success then we'd be winning superbowls every year with Sanchez. If college careers were absolute indicators of NFL success then we wouldn't have any busts in the draft.
What is this? Late season Sanchez-induced dementia? We saw him play. He throws up lollipops. His short passes were precise for the most part which was wonderful because if they were an inch off they were going the other way. I really think this fanbase has lost it over the last two years.
We saw less than 10 passes. In a back up role with pretty much no reps in practice or preparation. That is not seeing him play. In those passes he hit more receivers in stride on a short pass than Sanchez has in 4 years. It is quite apparent Sanchez doesn't belong in this league - He if was in any decent run organization he would have gone the way of Ryan Leaf by now. Is McElroy starting qb material for the NFL? Probably not, but nobody knows for sure until given a fair opportunity. That is all many in the fan base want is to give someone who "may" be qualified a chance over someone we know IS not qualified. At the very least McElroy will be a solid backup - I personally think he will still be in the league in that regard when Sanchez is long gone. Many people did not think Russell Wilson couldn't be a starter in this league for one reason - height. One metric does not always tell the story. Real winners have an intangible and not measurable attribute.
If you have the accuracy, the decision making, and the footwork - arm strength is pretty fucking irrelevant. It's nice to have, for sure. But it's a luxury, far from a necessity. One has to be retarded to write a QB off because of arm strength alone. Percentage-wise, how often does the standard NFL QB even throw beyond 40 yrds? JETS fans instinctively answer "JUST DON'T!" since we've had four years of Sanchize and know that long bombs and Sanchez are as compatible as vegetables and Disneyland. Look at this video and while I'll admire his footwork, please point out that weak arm of his... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQPVv4pafN8 You should never, ever, trust a highlight reel - but to say his arm strength is what's holding him back, I'd have to say is pure bullshit. And as said, now he allegedly has vastly improved it. I really wanna see us make an honest assessment of what we got in him, before the day when Billichik steals him to replace a retiring Brady.
Oh give me a break. Theres a reaon he was drafted in the 7th round. When EVERY professional scout says he is a backup and can't throw the football with any sort of authority I tend to believe them. He's not 1-0. He is 0-0. He played 1 quarter of football where he threw 7 incredibly soft passes completing 5 of them for what was it 27 yards. The run game is what scored and moved the chains there. No one is saying McElroy can't win games he just won't help you win games. He's just physically not capable of ever being a real good QB. I wish I was wrong but I highly doubt it as do most people not wearing homer glasses.
B.J Coleman Chandler Harnish Greg McElroy Levi Brown Sean Canfield Zac Robinson Matt Flynn Alex Brink Tyler Thigpen D.J Shockley Matt Cassell Ryan Fitzpatrick John Navarre Cody Pickett Casey Bramlet Matt Mauck B.J. Symons Bradlee Van Pelt Gibran Hamden Ken Dorsey Seth Burford Jeff Kelly Ronald Curry Wes Pate Tim Rattay Jarious Jackson Joe Hamilton Michael Bishop Chris Greisen Scott Covington Moses Moreno Tony Graziani Koy Detmer Wally Richardson Jon Stark Kyle Wachholtz John Walsh Gus Frerotte Jay Walker Steve Matthews Glenn Foley That's all the 7th round QB's taken since the NFL went to 7 rounds. Greg McElroy belongs on that list. The Jets BTW haven't found a single starting caliber NFL player in the 7th round since terry Bradway began running drafts. McElroy isn't going to be the first either.
I have yet to hear a proper answer as to why he was graded so low, except for 1) being on an insanely talented team in college and 2) weak arm. Anyone knows any other reasons? This is one article I've found interesting about the kid, question the idea of him having a weak arm: http://www.mockdraftclub.com/player-profiles/greg-mcelroy-profile Either way, all I know is you can have every fancy numbers in the world on a guy like Sanchez - anyone who watches a JETS game today will still see that #6 is not the one taking us onwards and upwards.
And every QB on that list has a stronger arm. I don't understand why everyone here is so obsessed with McElroy. You'd figure people would be tired of mediocre and poor QB play by now.
You still don't get it. Its not a weak arm. It is the weakest arm. He has the weakest arm out of any QB in the NFL. There is a reason he was drafted in the very end of the 7th round. No one wanted him. Ask Buffalo how they like their smart QB. Just because Sanchez has played poorly doesn't mean Greg can come in and save us. Sanchez's upside is way higher than Greg who could never be more than mediocre and even that would be a great achievement.
I was very fortunate to have media access to the game where he came in for Sanchez. Just speaking with him for like 5 minutes you can tell the guy is VERY smart and knows what to do with the football. He said that the offense at Alabama focused on being safe and playing with the intention of making the next down easier. He even said Rex is a lot like Saban in some ways. The only limitation this guy is going to have is his arm strength, but Rex said in his press conference that he "never knew you could improve arm strength as much as Greg has." He's got all the intangibles from what I can tell and the dude is a proven winner.
Your list is a joke. Make a list of all the 6th round QB's taken and the majority of the list will be the same quality as this one. Does that mean a Tom Brady can't be good because every other sixth rounder is garbage? I am not saying McElroy is Brady caliber but your argument is worthless. For the record their are about a half a dozen names on the list that I would say are better than Sanchez and given a different situation could have shown it. Sanchez gets the benefit of the doubt because he did absolutely nothing on a good team with a D an running game. Much the way you claim McElroy did against Arizona.
1) So it's impossible to become an franchise QB without arm strength? 2) Check the video - is this the weakest arm you have ever seen in the NFL? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQPVv4pafN8 Again, the video is from years ago and before he allegedly improved his arm strength.
