Matt Simms - Summation

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  1. NFL

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    He was also in the top 3 in deep ball accuracy, and at the top of league in 20+ yard passes.
     
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    I have zero issues with how they handled the QB situation. They gave Geno a chance to redeem himself and he failed, so they benched him. I'm fine with that.
     
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    20+ yard passes, I'm talking about sideline throws not throws in the middle of the field, sideline throws take much more arm strength than middle of the field stuff this is fact. Defenders are taking away the middle of the field and he can't even complete a curl route on the sidelines, its a joke.
     
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    Im totally fine with that too...but they wasted 3 games to find out what most sane people saw a month ago. At bare minimum...he should have been replaced last week at half time..and thats be very very very kind.
     
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    The fact that our RBs had pretty much half of those yards. The fact that he made about a handful of terrible decisions. The fact that he had 2 turnovers. All those facts tell me that the Jets can't give him he job. If he wins it in practice, then so be it. I'm not here to defend Geno. I want the best player to play.
     
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    offense totally blew but he came in with no practice reps and put up three times the yardage as the other guy. I really don't wanna hear about the int. He was trying to make something out of nothing and it probably would have been a touchdown if Hill made a break back for the ball instead of being a faggot scrub. At least it was a throw that had a chance. Genos interceptions are just god awful in comparison. By the way, that fumble likely never happens if those guys had a chance to practice together.
     
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    Matt Simms should be the starter for the next few games. I'm also 100% certain that the Matt Simms trajectory will look exactly like the Geno Smith trajectory: Some early success followed by a steep drop-off as he encounters poor pass protection combined with zero open receivers who drop the ball on the rare occasion when they are open.

    This offense is simply a wasteland.
     
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    Ok. First of all, Simms had 2 turnovers. One at the 50 yard line.

    I don't know if you remember, but the entire offense seemed to play better last year when Greg came in, only to get him on the floor 10 times the next game. But that doesn't matter much. When we gave him the ball, we were down 6 points, I wouldn't say that that's playing much behind.
     
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    And I'm not saying that Simms shouldn't start. I'm saying that whoever plays better in practice should start.
     
  10. Jetaho

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    That is exactly where I am right now. Geno deserves to sit, but let's not kid ourselves about Simms being our offensive savior. There is a lot of work to do.
     
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    To me it was clear that Simms is the better option at this point. He didn't blow me away by any stretch of the imagination but giving him a couple full starts to see what he has seems like a no lose situation with how Geno has been playing.
     
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    If Nelson breaks right and scores that TD on 3rd and 10 on the 23 instead of getting tackled at the 5, I think things would have been a bit more interesting. 13-7 in the third quarter at home might have been the spark needed. The fact they couldn't punch it in hurt them, not to mention that non-call on the holding of Cumberland on 2nd and 2 at the 2.

    I think Simms did OK given no practice reps this week. As someone said before the Int on 4th and long I dont blame him for. He evaded 3 rushers, was running for his life and had no body even on his side of the field except a covered S. Hill.
     
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    That first "turnover" was hardly on Simms. Powell basically dropped the ball. It shouldve been on Powell.
     
  14. FlashGordon

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    Yup. About 2-3 weeks of these hijinks and Simms will have the same "What the exactly fuck is happening right now" look that Geno has right now. Actually we'll probably be lucky to get three non-shellshocked weeks from him.
     
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    At this point if the guy drops back and throws the ball with authority in the general area code of one of our WR's that's an improvement to what we have been getting.

    Simms did 3 things I was happy about. He came out on the field like he actually wanted the ball. The OL and running game had a little juice. He released the ball with some authority in the general direction of a guy in a Jets uniform.

    Geno absolutely looks like a guy who doesn't want to be on the field. Simms looks like a jacked interception machine but at least he's actually jacked up to be on the field. Give him the reps and the team and see what happens. There is nothing to lose. Geno looks like he's done.
     
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    who cares, the season will be over in 4 weeks.
     
  17. TonyKP

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    They need to find out what they have in the rest of the offense too, though, and they'll be better able to do that with a veteran QB back there than with an inexperienced kid who will be going through his own rookie struggles.

    Playing Garrard now gives us a leg up on the decisions that will have to be made during the off season.
     
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    How can you say you are not here to defend Geno..and then point out things Simms did that Geno did for the entire season? How can you say that?

    The best player to play is not on the Jets roster right now..he is either in college or a back up on some other team.

    Being a Jet fan since 1968...I have a firm belief that the best player to play is in some womb right now...but thats my problem.

    I truly will never understand how anyone could defend the play of this guy. I could care less what he did early in the season..care less.

    Did he have shit receivers? Yes. Is the offensive line overrated? Has been for the last 3 years.

    It is what it is...play everyone you have to find out if someone can work with whats in front of them. Geno has had...I have stated this before...but I just want the defenders to get this in their heads...Geno has had 3 of the top 5 worst qb rated games THIS YEAR.

    I would play Simms...I would play I would play anyone to make sure I do not have to waste another draft pick on a qb next year..which is becoming more and more likely.

    That will be 3 qbs in the past 6 years. Not drafting qbs for depth...drafting qbs looking for that star. Not picking them late.
     
  19. mezzavo

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    Actually, I wasn't including the running backs. Geno had 29 passing yards and Smith had 79...so somewhere between 3 and 4 times the yardage. Simms completed 50% of his passes with one int. Smith a paltry 43% and 1 int. Smith's interception was literally right to the defender. Simms interception was on 3 or 4th and 18 and trying to make a play. If Hill shows he has some "stones" maybe he comes back to the ball like he should. Who knows. Still I would consider it a bad decision.

    Like I said before...he made some not good decisions but when he did they were decisive. And, fuck that...he gets ALL the practice reps. It's too late to play QB competition with 4 games left in the season. It is Simms time.
     
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    The thing with Simms is that he is decisive, good or bad; he does not hesitate.
     

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