Matt Schaub?

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  1. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    We are losing games because our QBs don't take care of the ball.

    Solution? Bring in a QB who's not taking care of the ball.

    Funking brilliant!

    :rofl:
     
  2. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Thanks Vilma, you did the right thing.
     
  3. Biggs

    Biggs Well-Known Member

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    Namath was self medicating for pain. Not the same as Shaub. Shaub is a stoner from way back.
     
  4. Poeman

    Poeman Well-Known Member

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    Schaub has benefited from a great offensive system and playmakers...What do we have here? He is going to suck more than ever and get paid money to do so.

    Lets just groom our own talent
     
  5. joe

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    ^^^

    ???????
     
  6. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    Your talking about 1980's football. Few and far In between have had a chance to sit lately.

    Flacco, Wilson, luck, rg3, Manuel, tannehill, dalton, ponder, Rothilsberger, Manning, he'll even Alex smith started day one to varied success. As coaches and GMs have much shorter leashes so to does the time for a project to learn get shorter. In a Cap driven league 5 year plans do not cut it anymore as teams can reload in a couple short years. In outside of a few patient franchises, if your not winning your out in today's NFL. Greenbay and Pitt are two notable exceptions where the front office is given time.
     
  7. TurkJetFan

    TurkJetFan Well-Known Member

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    that's exactly what it means...the jets need to literally draft a QB every year until we get a great one. I don't care about stopgaps. We need a true franchise QB.
     
  8. joe

    joe Well-Known Member

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    ^^^

    junc, what's this about and who's this directed to??
     
  9. RubenDias

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    so freaking funny :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
  10. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I sent you a PM w/ what happened. No need to single out that poster, he saw his mistake and corrected it. To be fair to him he mentioned he thought it was wrong when he first posted it.
     
  11. NYJets17

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    I feel like Geno is a problem, but not our biggest. Our offense will never win us any games this season.
     
  12. APK 8

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    27 points against Buffalo - offense had a lot to do with winning that one
     
  13. displacedfan

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    Schaubb's not a very good QB but he's not a bad QB. I don't the Jets are looking for a QB like that. Could the Jets win a SB with a QB like Schaubb, yeah. Do I think the Jets want to waste time to find out, no.
     
  14. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    no way could we win a SB w/ Schaub, we wouldn't even have made a title game w/ him in '09 or '10. He's not a winning QB, he's a stat guy who has lived off having Andre Johnson to throw to and Arian Foster to hand off to.
     
  15. JetsUK

    JetsUK Well-Known Member

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    Plenty of the top tier QBs playing at the moment did not play a full season their first year (I would love to see where rodgers and alex smith's careers would be right now had their draft positions been reversed) - where rookies are thrown in at the deep end its usually because the team in question had a very high draft pick because they didn't have a viable option at the QB position - it was not because the teams thought it was the best way to succeed it was because they didn't have any other way to succeed.

    You cannot convince me that Geno would not have benefitted from being eased in rather than being thrown in at the deep end.

    edit: to be clear I am not calling for us to pick up Schaub, I don't know too much about him, but I do feel I would be a lot happier this season with even a half decent vet QB out there with Smith coming in sparingly and learning the position.
     
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  16. Mr. Green Pants

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    Schaub has pretty consistently maintained a 90+ QB rating during his time in Houston, and that includes the years before he had elite talent around him. He's less than a year removed from a 4,000 yard, 22 TD pass season. On Sunday, in a game where he "struggled", he shredded the league's best defense. I don't know if he has the "it" factor, but the guy can play. In what world would he not be a huge upgrade for the Jets?
     
  17. displacedfan

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    I didn't think the Giants could win twice with Eli or the Ravens with Flacco, but those two teams hold 3 of the last 6 SB titles.

    So could the Jets win with Schaub, yeah. This is a bad year for him so far giving the ball away, a higher rate than past year, but he isn't bad. Like I said he isn't very good either.

    Should the Jets waste time trying to do this, no. I don't the Jets trying to trade for him. There are unique offseason circumstances where maybe I would be okay with the Jets taking Schaub on for one or two years, but those scenarios require the Jets only healthy QB being Simms on the roster.
     
  18. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    this is the problem w/ just looking at stats. he "shredded" Seattle but when it came time to win the game he was awful. This game is about making plays to win which he fails to do far too often but he's a great fantasy QB.
     
  19. displacedfan

    displacedfan Well-Known Member

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    He's actually not a very good fantasy QB either.

    http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyfootball/rankings

    Average spot is #20 on this list in terms of QBs. It's only 25% of the season done so any list you make now ranking players is going to look drastically different at the end of the season, but no he's not a great let alone good fantasy QB
     
  20. Mr. Green Pants

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    Eli Manning and Joe Flacco didn't have the "it" factor...until they did. Hell, Peyton Manning has looked very unclutch in many big game situations. Bottom line, there are 10-15 guys in the world who consistently play the QB position well, and Schaub is one of 'em. There's no guarantee that Teddy Bridgewater, Johnny Manziel, or anyone else in next year's draft class will ever play at Schaub's level. With the defense looking like it could be championship caliber for the next few years, I don't know that the Jets can again pin all their post-season hopes on a young QB.
     

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