Marty Mornhinweg

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  1. kevmvp

    kevmvp Well-Known Member

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    Marty's got a track record of being a pretty good offensive coordinator. He didnt just come to the Jets and forget how to coach.

    He needs talent to work with. The Jets have none on offense.
     
  2. zace

    zace Well-Known Member

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    Exactly the Eagles were the opposite of the Jets. Great on offense laughable on defense. He needs players. We have none.

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  3. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    So was it Sparanos fault?We have the same shitty weapons as last year besides Ivory.Ill admit one thing Sparano was a better O-Line coach then Marty or our current o line coach.We had a top 5 o line last year
     
  4. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    we did not have a top 5 OL, our OL was awful last year.
     
  5. zace

    zace Well-Known Member

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    Talent is not a coaching fault. That was tannys. Look we will be better next year. We simply didn't have the cap room.

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  6. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    we had plenty of room, Tannenbaum gets the hit for depth in 2012. we were doing ok until all the injuries but Idzik had simple cuts to make to give us cap room and we had plenty to either re-sign some guys(like Keller who would have been huge for us) or sign some FAs but he wasn't interested in winning this year. he was setting up for a big offseason after 2013.
     
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    zace Well-Known Member

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    Not enough to sign anyone of impact. But you're right. Our time will start next season. This will be a very different team.

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  8. Zach

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    You are sorely mistaken.

    Chad made a functional offensive unit out of Brian's shitstorm. Not the other way.
     
  9. IIMeanDeanII

    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

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    I still don't expect him to make huge splashes in F/A though. I think he's the mind of GM that signs middle tier F/A with upside and establishing quality depth throughout the process. Allowing us to stay flexible in any cap scenario and focusing on establishing this team primarily through the draft.
     
  10. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    In my opinion Mornhinweg gets a pass for two reasons. First and foremost, he's had little offensive talent to work with. Secondly, I think the injuries/suspensions to the WRs and TEs and Rex are responsible for the wheels running off the track of the offense. Since the bye, the Jets have gone back to the ground and pound conservative approach. IMO that has Rex's fingerprints all over it, as we have seen that before with the previous two OCs and Mornhinweg has never been that way before and he didn't start this season that way.
     
  11. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I don't expect him to use all the cap space but I expect a lot of moves. The best ones aren't always the highest profile ones but I expect some major moves.
     
  12. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    Profootball focus had our o line ranked 5 th last season
     
  13. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    that means nothing to me, they don't know assignments, they are guessing. Our QB was constantly under pressure and we couldn't open holes in the run game. The OL was the worst it has been since 2007.
     
  14. Biggs

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    The Jets O in 06 with very little talent including a QB with no arm but a very good manager wasn't a shit storm at all.

    If you look at Sanchez he improved ever year under Shottenheimer in almost every category, yards, TD's, QBR even as the talent pool around him dropped in 2011 Mark improved.

    He also put together excellent game plans in the playoffs. Even in the AFC finals against Indy the O came out and exploited Indy right off the bat.

    OC is not a very popular position especially on a team with a limited QB which is what Shotty had to work with every year he was the OC on the Jets. I wouldn't call him a great OC but he certainly doesn't deserve the rep he has around here.
     
  15. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Sanchez may have improved statistically, but I don't think he really improved or grew at all. Schottenheimer may not be awful, but imo he's FAR from being a good OC. I used to be able to name about 10-15 key aspects of the OC job in which he was bad. Now I just don't care about him any more. He's history. Yes he came up with some good game plans, but he also had a bunch of stinkers, particularly following the bye week. His play calling and play design were close to awful.
     
  16. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    Junc is just taking the unpopular stance on purpose like usual. The OL wasn't great but it wasn't "terrible" in 2012. certainly better than this year. They had a few bad games but were overall solid. Junc uses the OL as an excuse for Taco regularly.
     
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    They haven't been able to develop a rookie Qb. And the offense is in a shambles one of the worst in the NFL. This is the job Marty accepted. He is in charge of the offense with little input from Rex who wanted to go back to what he did in 2009 when he was basically only working with the D. Of course since then he admitted he was wrong and should have been involved more with the offense and then changed his mind again for this season. So Marty has basically been calling most of the shots and look what the product is on the field. He did stay with Andy Reid for years in Phila but reportedly Andy didn't want him when he went over to KC. So for all the blame game last season on Tony Sparano esp from Mark's fans who always blame his play on someone other than him you have to look first at Marty for doing a horrible job. How can you not.
     
  18. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Easily. Not many people expected this team to get through the toughest part of its schedule with 5 wins, especially with a rookie QB who by all reports wasn't ready to start in the NFL. Marty's did a very good job until the bye. Look at all the injuries and suspensions and the paltry talent level on the team. As the old saying goes, "You can't make chicken salad out of chicken sheit." Marty has had a top 10 offense almost every season of his career in the NFL. I don't know why Reid may not have wanted him in KC, but if Marty isn't the best OC the Jets have ever had, he's one of the top 2-3. He isn't the problem. I'm not a betting man, but if I were, I'd be willing to bet that Rex is mostly responsible for the offense's problems of late. The lack of continuity and consistency with the WR corps sure hasn't helped, but this ultra conservative run-oriented offense screams Rex. Mornhinweg has never done that before in his career, and wasn't doing it earlier in the year when it perhaps would have made more sense. Rex gets passive/conservative and goes with his comfort zone when things get tight.
     
  19. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    I expect a lot of Barnes type signings. That guy was awesome for us early in the season. Really excited to see him get back at it yesterday.

    I honestly think he had 10 sacks+ in him this year if he stayed healthy.
     
  20. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    I'd rather have our O line this year honestly. Colon is better than Moore was. Winters has struggled and hasn't been as good as Slauson but all in all its either really similiar to last season or a bit better.

    I think Howard has improved and then Mangold/Brick are basically the same. Neither were as amazing last year as they were in 09/10 but still solid.
     

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