Marty Mornhinweg talks 2014 jets offense with Michael Kay

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  1. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    SRV's "Riviera Paradise" still amazes me when I hear it.
     
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    Testify to me is the ultimate SRV song.

    There is an acoustic version he plays on a 12 string that is absolutely astonishing. I'll try to find a clip of it tomorrow. His fingers are otherworldly.

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  3. jtrain

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    http://www.newyorkjets.com/videos/v...ns-at-TE/944939fd-8603-431a-81b0-a37569ee4b1f

    Interesting vid with the tightend coach discussing both guys. Looks like Cumberland has been mentoring amaro (not sure if that's good lol). Coach also talked about having amaro block better due to him not blocking much at college. Hopefully that's more of his history and not him being far behind in that area. Looks like we'll also be using a lot of different personnel groups this season
     
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    Hopefully Amaro doesn't spend a bunch of time failing at something he didn't do much in college. He should be doing what got him drafted instead.
     
  5. NoodleArm

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    Strongly agree. You don't see Jimmy Graham out there blocking,
     
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    Going to see them this weekend. Can't exactly call myself a big fan. This whole blues/roots music boom will probably die out in about twenty years. Then Coldplay will be historically relevant.
     
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    Jace isn't modeling his game after Graham, he wants to model his game after Tony Gonzalez. I applaud him for having great expectations for himself. He wants to be a player that can do it all.
     
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    He's just getting paid like he was.
     
  9. jtrain

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    http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/20...ver_stephen_hill_to_better_use_his_speed.html


    The Stephen Hill Saga is well-known to Jets fans by now. A big, raw talent drafted in the 2012 second round, Hill's first two seasons were plagued by injuries and a general lack of production: 45 catches, four touchdowns, certain games in which he simply seemed to vanish.

    The Jets have thus far stopped short of labeling the 6-foot-4, 215-pound Hill a bust, but they did make it a priority this offseason to upgrade their receiving corps, first by getting Eric Decker in free agency, then by selecting three more wideouts in the draft. The message was plain: By no means would Hill be guaranteed a roster spot in 2014.

    That's not to say the Jets aren't still doing what they can to help Hill become the player they traded up four spots to get two years ago.

    The priority for Hill, first and foremost, is staying healthy and getting his knees to cooperate. His rookie year was cut short by arthroscopic surgery on his left knee, and last season constant swelling in both knees eventually landed him on injured reserve again.

    "That's the No. 1 thing," said Jets wide receivers coach Sanjay Lal. "Because when he's healthy, his mind is where it should be. Instead of thinking, 'Is this going to hurt when I cut?' or 'I'm not feeling right, I've got to manage my gait,' etc. Now he can think about what the defense is doing, and concentrating on the route, the catching, all that."

    That said, Hill also has to learn how better to use his speed. Part of the reason the Jets so coveted Hill during the 2012 draft was the blazing 40-yard dash time (4.36 seconds) he ran during the combine that winter.


    But speed is only a part of effective route running for a receiver. And Hill is still learning that.

    "Certain things don't have to be full-speed all the time," Hill acknowledged last month.

    The Jets understand this, too. To assist Hill, Lal and offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg have spent time this offseason breaking down Hill's routes to show Hill how to be more efficient in running them.

    "He's long-legged and he's fast," Lal said. "At times, guys like that can get out of control at the top of a route. Certain routes, Steve doesn't have to open his stride up all the way. Certain routes, with a multiple change of directions, you want a controlled stride, or a controlled speed.

    "We can create the illusion that he's going full-route speed when he's not. Those are some of the things we're working on."


    The early returns from organized team activities and minicamp were pretty good; Hill ran mostly with the second team and caught a lot of what was thrown his way, even if he sometimes used his body when he should have grabbed the ball with his hands.

    "Early results are positive," Lal said. "The main thing is [for Hill] to stay healthy and get enough reps on the practice field and in games to become a complete player, to not be quote-unquote 'raw' anymore."

    The true test, of course, begins during training camp, when the Jets will have 12 receivers competing for five to seven spots on the final roster.


    Hill body catching still pisses me off but I'm glad we are making an attempt to work on his game step by step. If hill improves how he uses his foot speed, create illusions ect there is no way he can't lock down that #2.
     
  10. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I'm crossing my fingers and toes and also my double dong that Hill can become a predictive player. I think "dynamic" it way too much to hope for at this point.

    Bit of he can't prove to be even that after week 8, and some second tier receiver comes available (a la Nelson), I won't be surprised if he gets cut for a roster spot.
     
  11. joeuser

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    You had me at Mark Sanchez

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  12. Vanbiesbrouck

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    I trust MM, and I think he'll be here both this year & next year.

    I do, however, wonder how much this year is a referendum on Sanjay Lal. I think we're counting on him to come through more than we realize. He's been here a while, and our WR position has been unsettled, to put it mildly. The roster talent (lack thereof) & injuries aren't his fault, but we drafted a raw WR in Hill with the hopes that we could coach him up. We know Rex is a D-coach, so it falls on MM and Lal (but mostly on Lal) to get him to be a player. Kid has responsibility too, but, still. We now have Hill, Evans, Saunders, Enunwa, etc. That's a lot of young talent to coach, and really he should've been both scouting some of the college/UDFA guys and other guys in the league to help find improvements. David Nelson seems to have worked out as an interim replacement...not a lot of others have (Clowney, etc.). Again, largely a talent issue that falls 90% on the GM, but coach is a part of this mix.

    So, if the WR unit doesn't make great strides this season (pun not intended), I wonder if we go out looking for another WR coach. Granted, you don't win a super bowl based on how good your WR coach is, but...Hill getting cut will make me ask questions about Lal's ability. Hopefully someone steps up & it's a moot point.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Sanjay freaking Lal. I'll never understand why the Jets hired a WR Coach from the Raiders, of all godforsaken places.

    Lal should have been on notice LAST season, but I think they gave him a mulligan because of the injuries. Not the guy I would choose to tutor a handful of young receivers. Hopefully I'm wrong.
     
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    I'd like to believe in him but it was alarming when I read that the players were listening to Lal thru Decker because they believed in him. That could mean he doesn't exactly command their respect. Hopefully I'm wrong.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Yeah, that's alarming. Coaches shouldn't need a player to legitimize them.
     
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    I feel bad for my fellow TGG'ers who are patiently waiting for Hill to become a WR
     
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    He my binky.
     
  18. Vanbiesbrouck

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    Yes, but until this camp, consider the alternatives...Clowney? Greg Salas? Ghost of Santonio Holmes?

    Thank god this year we have some competition.
     

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