You don't see the point that a leader does not let this get to this point a person with maturity issues does. Your caveat is if he waved a finger in his face is wrong. Your caveat should be if Geno made the right choice and did not let the issue get to this point where it becomes a shooting match then physical. This is just one of many bad choices made by Geno in NY. He could have done more for himself and for the team and proved himself a leader if he would have paid IK back, made charitable contribution for IKs camp let that get and see how many team mates want to play with him. And winning does not cure all so until he mans up and admits his previous wrongs and tries to correct them....
it doesn't matter if they are the same people, we are held to the same standard. everyone keeps saying they can't excuse ik, than throws in the caveat that excuses ik. becht didn't learn his lesson by breaking the first guys jaw. why did ik have to? oh, thats right. he was embarrassed.
Agreed, I get he wants to support his team mate but at this point just commenting on the whole situation does nothing to help. It just ads to the controversy and continues an unnecessary narrative. The media I expect to pick the scab but the team should let it die.
marshall should be cut. guy is a complete clown. we dont need a cancer like him. him and geno can both GTFO
OK. Im gonna put in my two cents. I think some confusion stems from a partial quote. I believe Marshall said, it's an ''unfortunate situation'' and Smith ''didn't do anything wrong that day.'' THAT DAY. So what I gather is on the previous day/s Geno might have acted like an ass hat. Pride and a mans ego play a bigger factor than the $ its self. No one wants to be a punk I'd like to think that Geno had every intention of reimbursing the $600. The only reason I think (no proof) that he didn't pay right away was prob the way IK asked for the $. Something like You effn ahole you owe me $600 and Geno reacts with FU I don't owe you shnit. And that goes back and forth for 10days or so until they are in each others face Geno might even have pointed a finger and said im not gonna pay you and there isn't anything you cab do about it. IK goes home pissed. Next day drops Smith with out warning. Sucker punch sure...had it coming sure. Again no proof on my end just spinets here and there from interviews and articles but that how it plays out in my head. Now as far as teammates not coming foreword right away. Bowls might have said that its a team matter and not to talk to media. But then after NY media spun it make Geno look like more of a chump than he is the team had to stick up for him. That's just what I think
[QUOTE="JetsfanHBca, post: 3289145, member: 16056"I believe Marshall said, it's an ''unfortunate situation'' and Smith ''didn't do anything wrong that day.'' /QUOTE] Lost me with this.. Marshall is not famous for being 100% truthful or a good locker room presence.
Again no one is arguing hat IK was wrong here. You seem to have this issue understanding that What a majority of people are saying Geno's immature attitude is at fault here too. The minute you accept Geno's poor leadership skills played into this,is the minute you surpass Geno. Again why wait a week to come out and protect the qb where were they last week when It happened? Seems a little contrived. So you are basically choosing one story over another rather then looking at the whole picture. Whether Geno waved a finger does not mean he is not a fault here.
Look above where w as he last week?this is another story in a story full of it. Remember the dead close friend....the friend of the brother......sorry not buying into this. Is it not possible he could have taunted IK and Marshall missed it?
If it was even a sucker punch. You can tell when an argument is being brought to the point where someone is going to hit someone. Your comment shows you are only taking one side of the story your accepting. Rather then loom at the whole story. I keep saying this none here is protecting IK what everyone is asking and questioning is Geno's leads hip skills and decision making. His on field choice lead to 41 turn overs in 30 games but Geno lovers swear he will do better this yr with more talent. They got more talent but again Geno's brain steps in the way and alienates his teammates. Another bad choice. Instead it is easier to put all the blame on one person what about the choices Geno made to get to this point? Where is the dead friend first being report or the brothers friend......you guys are choosing to ignore that portion. They had to come from somewhere face it is immature and that lead to him getting punch. IK paid his price but You guys want to let Geno escape and do more damage to the Jets. In a world where everything is equal they are both cut
I thought it was generally accepted that there was some verbal jousting leading up to the assault? As a veteran wouldn't/shouldn't Marshall of perhaps thought to perhaps try cool tensions, tell IK to step down and/or Geno to be the leader and take care of the problem (i.e pay the guy)?
Leads hip skills? We aren't asking him to be Shakira Seriously though I agree with everything you said. Anyone who thinks Geno was turning the corner this year scroll back to this time last year and there are threads echoing the same sentiment. I have friends that are big WVU fans since I live in northern VA and they say he had the same smug entitled attitude in college as well. Tigers don't change stripes.
I first came across the story whilst semi-distracted and scrolling through other pages, I saw the headline "Quarterback flattened by rookie" (paraphrase) and in the second and a half it took be to scroll back up and click the link I have to admit that my first thought was - "It's gonna be Geno they talking about". Although I'm not sure if thats a comment on Geno or just FML Jets!
Yes exactly. But what is your point? The newspaper should have read.. "Idzik violent 6th round pick sucker punches Idzik dumb azz second round pick" At the end of the day it still remains Geno showed lack of commonsense or leadership skills and in fact helped escalate on what should have been a non issue. JMO
Surely you must concede that it is possible a bad situation can be the result of more than one person's actions. Next!
I was busy last week but I think I was on here a few times. Geno is immature I won't ever agrue you that. But he is only 24 and people do turn into leaders after showing they are immature ala Big Ben. You said winning doesn't solve everything? No it doesn't solve everything but people are more to overlook things when your winning. If Geno showed he could be the QB for years to come by now just about everybody on here would be taking up for Geno. Just like the Pat fans are taking up for Brady.
