Mark Sanchez- "whatever we need to do to win, it's on."

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  1. Miamipuck

    Miamipuck New Member

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    I dont like Sanchez.
     
  2. nyjetsrule

    nyjetsrule Active Member

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    you want me to play agent right now? seriously? I can wing it.... and I thought Revis could leave after 2014 if he wants..

    how about his cap hit decreases this year from 14 mill to 10 million. Next year we raise his base salary by 2 milllion and his base salary in 2013 by 2 million. Then we add two years onto his deal for an average of 13 million a year with 10 guaranteed and we keep the no franchise clause in the deal.

    So Revis gives up 4 mill now, which is purely deferred. In return he gets an additional two years with another 10 mill guaranteed. So by giving up 4 now, he nets 10 mill in the long run....
     
  3. bibigon

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    Also, his cap hit for the last year of that deal is scheduled to be something like $18M in 2013 if that contract voids on schedule. There's basically no way to restructure this. Moving any more salary to the future is just an insanity train with his contract.
     
  4. bibigon

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    He can leave after 2013, not 2014, and his cap hit this year is only $11.2M this year as is.

    Anyways - Revis wouldn't agree to such a restructure. Players almost never restructure without having the money converted into a bonus. If he takes $4M less this year, he would risk losing that money entirely if had a career ending injury a week into the season (and they just cut him).

    He would probably agree to have like $6M of his deal this year converted into an option bonus however, which keeps that money guaranteed. That lops $5M off his deal this year, but makes for some really hilarious cap numbers down the line. 2013 becomes a $22M cap hit or something insane.

    The voidable years keeps his cap figure lower now, but it means all his bonuses count four times more in 2013 if the thing voids.
     
  5. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    aren't there provisions against that? I'm sure there are.
     
  6. bibigon

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    I believe a player's recourse is simply to collect money in the form of a signing bonus (which is guaranteed).

    I could be wrong however, but I haven't seen anything to keep a team from cutting an injured player. The Patriots just did it with Tully Banta Cain. We did it with Damien Woody?
     
  7. ILL-AL

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    If Revis restructured, He'd just hold next year for more money
     
  8. Miamipuck

    Miamipuck New Member

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    If they restructure a contract so the team doesn't take a 15MM+ hit to the Cap you better believe it will be structured to benefit the player monetarily. What agent worth their salt would allow a player to get shanked when he is doing the team the favor.

    No way they structure a contract where a drop of that money that is owed him would not be eventually in his pocket injury or death notwithstanding. It will probably be a signing bonus anyhow.....
     
  9. bibigon

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    That's exactly how most restructures work. The salary for the current year is converted in part into a bonus, lowering the cap hit, but guaranteeing the salary anyways.

    With older players on short term deals sometimes you'll see more complex maneuvering, like a bonus and a dummy year extension, but we're not going to be seeing that with Revis.
     
  10. ManlyGenius

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    You can't give him more years. He's already signed through 2016.

    The best I can think of is you convert 6 million of his 2011 salary to a signing bonus, you decrease his 2011 cap hit by 5 million and add 1 million a year to 2012-2016. Which means you have a particularly awful problem in 2013 when he can walk and you're stuck with about 21 million in dead money (instead of 18) but it helps you in the meantime.
     
  11. JCotchrocket

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    Disregarding injury, Revis is going to sign a record-breaking 3rd contract. Trust me- he's not about to add years to his agreement.
     
  12. ManlyGenius

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    Not really. Players get cut after football related injuries all the time. They get some kind of a settlement but if Revis (or any player) has a career ending injury in practice tomorrow they're cut the next day and they never get a non-guaranteed dime or roster bonus or option bonus or anything.
     
  13. ajetsfan4ever

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    you gotta love this from our qb.

    and for also being the leader by talking for revis, even though I dont think revis would rework his deal.
     
  14. Trifco

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    Well you never know, maybe Revis agents are reasonable and not like those idiots of the guy who heldout last season.
     
  15. Miamipuck

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    The money isn't increased, it is given the player in another form, either guaranteed or in a eating/shitting/breathing bonus or both. It is just posturing to spread the hit out. Nevertheless, the player could tell the team to pound sand it is well within their rights.
     
  16. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    Yeah, not that simple but thanks for the insight.
     
  17. ManlyGenius

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    Exactly. Revis can always hold out but he has a very, very good incentive to not hold out; he's a free agent in 2013 if he doesn't hold out. He might be a little underpaid in 2012/2013 but he would be set up for a huge third contract pretty early on in his career and that's rare.
     
  18. TommyGreen

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    If they're going to restructure Sanchez's contract, they're going to have to be quick about it.
     
  19. Jets-N-Terps

    Jets-N-Terps Well-Known Member

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    Sanchez has grown into a real leader. I'm just hoping that you guys don't have the cap space to keep doing these deals.
     

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