Mark Sanchez, the WCO, Short Throwing Stat Splits. (Warning Stats)

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  1. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    and these are the worst kind of int's. they easily go for 6 or at best give the other team great field position. thats why his ints are game changers.
    i don't know how to find the stat but he has to lead the league in pick 6's to d-linemen
     
  2. TurkJetFan

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    I like what the OP is doing and I think he makes a valid point. I also think you make a very valid point. Somewhere in the middle lies the truth.

    Mark Sanchez would look better throwing short passes, both behind the line and dumpoff with better players, yes. But at the same time we've seen with our own eyes the countless failed screen passes on his behalf (some of which somehow go for picks to dlineman), the underthrows, the over throws, the incompletions due to taking hits because he sits with the ball too long etc etc etc. Some of those incompletions can certainly be attributed to less than ideal pass catching RB's though, no question about it.
     
  3. RobertTheJr

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    2-3 yards behind or above? Do you know how big a yard is? 3 yards off of his receiver is 9 feet!
     
  4. Noam

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    Have you seen Sanchez throw a football. The odds of him hitting a receiver in the hands are only slightly lower than of one winning the lottery. Take a look almost every completion requires the receiver to adjust to the ball, to slow down, to twist, leap and contort his body. There is nothing easy about catching a Sanchez thrown pass. It is almost like every completion needs a heroic effort by the receiver.
     
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  5. xmscott

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    Do you support the wide receivers?
     
  6. RobertTheJr

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    So basically Sanchez on average misses his target by a length of 9 ft in any-one direction: about the length of a regulation basketball hoop. Now I know why everyone hates him.
     
  7. Biggs

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    Exactly. In pro football defenders are actually covering WR in that 9 ft window. If Sanchez was as innacurate as people portray him around here, he would have far fewer interceptions.

    The idea that Sanchez can't hit the side of a barn is laughable. Cornerbacks actually are covering the side of a barn.

    The nice thing about the WCO is the opportunity for pick 6 goes up dramatically. Far more exciting than the Interception that mimics a punt.
     
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  8. 85inthehall

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    How Sanchez adapts to a new offense is an unknown. 2012 is a disaster all around for the Jets offense and stats all around show that. Running game was awful, receivers were bush league, tight ends were hurt, play action was never an option, and here was no pass catching option out of the backfield.

    Let's just see how he does in off season workouts, camp, and pre season with legit competition, a healthy receiving corp, and some new weapons around him.

    You play a game of shorter faster passing it means he is hit less, fumbles less, gains confidence...what he needs it so make the right read quickly -- will he be able to do that is the question.
     
  9. Swedish Ale

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    But... Hobbes recently told me that taking a sack is worse than forcing one of these picks...! (point he was making was Buttfumble > McElroy)

    I'd actually like to see McElroy in some WCO.
     
  10. Kentucky Jet

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    We could go out and get a LT in his prime and Sanchez would still stink. Excuses are really unnecessary. We have seen the guy play for four years now. He is still inaccurate no matter how you care to explain it!
     
  11. Kentucky Jet

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    And Sanchez is an expert at throwing a PICK 6.
     
  12. Swedish Ale

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    Well... maybe he just misinterpreted the concept 'keeping their offense off the field'. This way he gets the ball back faster AND keeps their O off the field.
     
  13. johnnysd

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    There is NOTHING to consider here. Sanchez is by any objective means an awful QB and any thought that he will miracolously change is misguided and delusional. He needs to be cut. He is more valuable off the team.
     
  14. Zach

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    Vick says hi.

    (His numbers while in Falcons uniform is slightly worse, believe it or not. But then, prison is one hell of a motivator, I was told.)
     
  15. Hobbes3259

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    I said taking 11 in a game was worse. If you're going to disparage me, at least have the courtesy to do it accurately.

    And Sanchez, is >> then GMac.
     
  16. johnnysd

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    Vick has nothing to do with Sanchez. He was a running QB with a huge arm.

    You are really defending Sanchez a QB with matching 26 turnover seasons the last 2 years, an inability to make even a good short pass, no NFL acumen, no ability to read a defense, no skill and no composure? You want to see this loser on the field again? WOW
     
  17. Zach

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    I am saying, Vick is probably as dumb as Sanchez. That has to count in some way, no?

    If anything, Vick's career stat at ATL closely resembles Nacho's career number (slightly worse.)
     
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  18. Biggs

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    Vick was much better than Sanchez in Atlanta. They guy was a one man wrecking machine if you count his rushing yards and YPC. When healthy Vick was a threat in any down and distance situation.
     
  19. Zach

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    But still dumb as a door knob. I still remember a few DCs talking about how they could just forget about one half of the field and leave WRs completely wide open all game long - and Vick somehow manages to miss every one of these chances, as long as the defenders were in his playing half of the field.

    That doesn't mean jack shit either. The fact is, Vick is a fucking dumbass. (His Philadelphia years had two good seasons, followed by his usual Vick sucktitude.)

    But he did improve his passing numbers under Andy's and Marty's guidance - so, there has to be SOMETHING even a dumbass like Vick can pick up in there. Probably Nacho can do too. (And I want him gone, mind you - just, I want him gone only when the next QB apparent is ready, not before.)
     
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  20. TNJet

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    Everybody but Holmes, he has to go.
     

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