See my post on page 2 of this thread. Mark is accountable for his play. However there is a lot more that goes into the success and failure of the QB than just QB play alone. There were plenty of times that Mark should have dumped off quickly instead of taking a bad sack. However the times that did stick out and the plays that were most damaging were the ones when he got absolutely lit up in the backfield because of non-existent o-line play. Complain about Mark not passing well the last 3 games and go look at the WR play. Both Burress and Holmes dogged it the last 3 games and Kerley was the only one who consistently ran good routes and got seperation. Funny how a mid-round rookie outproduced the #1 and #2 veteran WRs on the team the last 3 games. But that is Sanchez's fault because Dumb and Dumber couldn't get open...
Finally somebody who recognizes the real problem here. It's not the OL. It's not the WRs. Sanchez has failed to master the skills an NFL QB needs, namely how to make pre and post snap reads. He looks out at the defense before the ball is snapped, and he's not understanding the defensive alignments he's seeing. Consequently, he's not changing plays correctly at the LOS. If he doesn't recognize blitz formations, he won't realize he can't take a seven-step drop. Once the ball is snapped, Sanchez is not recognizing when receivers are actually open. "Open" in the NFL is a lot tighter window than in college at USC. Waiting for receivers to get "separation" means that Sanchez frequently throws late with the typical bad consequences: throwing behind receivers, missing receivers on timing patterns, putting DBs into position to defend passes and make INTs. Throwing late makes QBs especially vulnerable to INTs that turn into pick sixes. Over-dependence on check-down/outlet passes is another indicator of a QB who cannot understand and process what he's seeing on the field. Unless Sanchez learns to read defenses, he won't look any better next season than he did this season. That's his problem, and that's what needs to be fixed.
It is the OL, it is the WRs, it is the RBs and it is the QB. It's not all on one person or one unit. We could have put Brady on our team this year and he wouldn't have had a great season, we would have won 2 or 3 more games but nothing ridiculous. We had many problems this year including the QB regressing a bit.
What does that have to do with his post? That post was a great analysis of Sanchez's major problem, his lack of football IQ. Unless he learns to recognize and read defenses, he will continue to be a below average QB.
Sigh. I have to agree with the general points made here. All his problems start with his difficulties in reading defenses. I would only add that at least in some cases his errant throws come from attempting to overcome his taking too much time looking at the defense to understand what they are doing, so he as to speed it up in order to compensate. His fundamentals suffer, and the passes are behind the target, delivered before the receiver expects it, or worst of all end up as turnovers when he still missed the coverage. One other point about the discussion of sacks, along with the point Soss was making it should be noted that the Jet OL gave up Qb hits at the 22nd rate in the league, with 1st being the worst, obviously. The most simple and direct explanation for how you can explain 22nd in hits and at the same time give up 39 sacks is that the increased number of sacks is more on the Qb. Meaning on Sanchez. Not Hunter. Not Schotty. For that matter not the ball boy or team bus driver and everyone else the Sanchez Excuse Machine wants to throw under the bus to defend his ineptitude.
Except for when he was asked to make a play when the Jets were down in a game and the defense and/or hb stopped being effective. The issue is always the same, Sanchologists ignore that he cant handle pressure (the blitz), which occurs more when the other team gets a lead. He is a great qb when one of 2 things happen: 1. The opponent is trash, or 2. The Jets have a lead because the defense and running game is playing great. No one disputes that. The issue is what happens when the Jets are down, the defense has pinned their ears back, and he has to make decisions in the face of a pass rush and zone defense (before teams go into prevent mode late in the 4th). The answer is that he is the worst qb in the NFL when that happens.
well he's analyzing the jets qb so well, i wanted to get his perspective about his own QB, so yea that is my response and its pretty good one if u know how to read between the lines.
I disagree. A combination of high expectations generated by watching ELITE level O-line play the previous few years and Sanchez's poor pocket presence made the OL appear worse than it was. It was average, all in all.
If Mark is under pressure one second after the snap, I doubt its Marks fault he made a bad throw. So yeah, the OL play does come into play even under pressure.
Chances are not very great. If he cant process what he sees on film and apply it mentally during the game now, I doubt he will ever be able to. But even if he can, he is not accurate enough to ever be truly great.
Not often that I can say this but I agree with you 100% on this one Junc. Inconsistent O-Line, total disaster with the WR situation, a RB who isn't good at catching outlet passes, a QB who looked scared and played without confidence, and an OC who didn't seem to know how to utilize his players... How some people can just key on one aspect and say that's all there was to it is beyond me. Tony has his work cut out for him this offseason. Edit: Lol, just realized that I added in the Schotty factor which you will probably take issue with... oops.
As I stated earlier in the thread, it would be nice if we could see what pressure was accounted for by 3/4 man rush and what was accounted for by a 5+ man rush. I have a feeling the Jets gave up more 3/4 man pressure than most of the league meaning that there is no hot read for Sanchez as 7 defenders would be covering 5 WR's at most. If Mulligan or a RB is in to block than you have 4 WR covered by 7 or even 8 defenders. That changes everything because than the problem would be Sanchez just not throwing the ball away in time or moving out of the pocket. If the pressure comes from 5+ the majority of the time, which I don't think it did for our o line, then Sanchez wasn't identifying it and hitting his quick read. Two completely different scenarios, but both teachable.
