The fact that Sanchez is working with a mentor in Gannon, IMO means that he does not need that duplicated in a back-up Brees had been in the league about eight years, he did not need a mentor and Brunell did not do that for him. Brees is a real good QB and did not need any help from Brunell. IMHO, the Jets have made moves to win now. I do not think that picking up Brunell is consistent with that plan...
Gannon was probably with Mark for about a few weeks, and he wont be there all the time. Gannon has a job with SiriusXM. I think he took some time out himself to help Mark out. (doubt he is getting paid) That's not true. Brunell may see things from the sidelines that Brees didn't during an offensive series. Sometimes a little advice from a Vet-QB on the sidelines observing could go a long way. I do. Brunell will be next to Mark every second during training camp, and the entire season. Kellen Clemens on the sideline isnt going to see half the shit Brunell does.
That is a good point, but I think they have developed a relationship that will allow Mark to call on him regularly. But I will admit that is speculation What is not true, that Brees has been in the league for eight years, and was a good qb before going to the Saints. I think that you would agree with me that both of those points are true. I do not think that Brees needed brunell for "mentoring". He was established as a good QB. We can at least agree on the last sentence. That KC is not going to see half of the stuff that Brunell will see. If he needs a mentor hire Brunell as assistant QB coach, but hire a player to back up Sanchez.
Isn't that what Matt Cavannah (sp?) was hired as QB coach to do? How will Brunnell, who doesn't know the playbook or the calls help when he has to learn it himself. Brunnell will be so far behind the other 4 QBs since he hasn't had a playbook or attended any OTA's. Like or hate him, Clemens is the Jets best backup option this season. Plus Clemens is also the holder. Some mentioned a few shakey grabs last year, but obviously Westhoff blamed the snapper and that is why KC is back and the snapper isn't. As has been said before, we can only win this year wih Sanchez.
Exactly. There are no other options. You keep whining about Brunell's shortcomings, but have no constructive input. Maybe you should realize that in the absence of other options, Brunell is the best AVAILABLE choice for the task at hand... or you could just go on whining.
1) Mark may call on him but it's not like Gannon knows the whole Jets playbook... and rightfully so, it's not his job. 2) What's not true is that Brees doesn't consult anyone about what he does on the field. Tiger Woods is the best golfer in the world, but he takes advice from his caddy. Taking advice from a coach (Schotty and Cavanugh) or from a player is very diffrent. On game-day the OC and QB coach are bothered with calling the perfect game and eventually coming up with new solutions... they can't bother to only look at Sanchez's mistakes! A vet player on the sidelines instead can focus on the play of the starter. And if the guy is experienced he can spot mistakes and help Mark correct them. 3) A coach's job on game day isn't to worry about the performance of 1 guy. I mean, the QB coach kind of is.. but evidently Cavanaugh is best suited at explaining Mark the nuances of the playbook during the week rather than being a keen observer on game day. And again, it's a Coach-Player relationship... not a player-player one... and it makes the world of difference. Brunell had a very similar offense (concept-wise) in NO. And Clemens fucked up some holds too...
did anybody see brunell play last season? he was godly awfull. i know he's a veteran, but w/garcia and bulger out there, it makes no sense to sign brunell.
Yeah I doubt Gannon will be able to see Mark when Mark calls. Guy has other jobs, and obligations to take care off. If he was hired thats a different story. Gannon isnt going to be in Miami the night before a game in the film room discussing shit. Brunell will be. I know Brees obviously doesnt need Brunell, but I'am sure Brunell was able to help Brees. Like I said Brees cant see everything on the field. He may of missed an opportunity to make a play, or was fooled by a defensive scheme. Brees doesnt know everything. Of course yes he is a brilliant QB. What I'm saying is Brunell on the sidelines may see things Brees didnt, and can tip him off for where he may of went wrong. I'm sure when Brees throws an interception and walks over to the coaches he isnt sitting there just twiddling his thumbs. He has tons of people around him telling himwhat they saw, and Brees says what he saw. Now say Sanchez throws a pick, and comes to the sidelines to Kellen Clemens.. Mark: Hey Kellen what did you see out there? Kellen: Uh.. i dunno man I couldnt even hold that ball in place for Feely to kick that FG(Falcons game) Who though? Thats the problem. There is nobody out there for us to hire to back up Sanchez. Culpepper? Forget that. I cant think of anybody out there.
Bulger has serious injury problems and Garcia is gonna look to be a starter. We aren't exactly filling this position to have someone to take over... if Sanchez goes down that is the season in any event. Bulger, Clemens, or Brunell won't change that much.
I cant see Bulger being able to teach Mark like Brunell can. Brunell has said multiple times he wants to be a coach. If Bulger comes in here he is going to be trying to compete with Mark..which is always great, but I would rather have the guy whom is WILLING to wait for us, and wants to teach a young QB. Plus Bulger is a bum.
i agree w/the teaching part, but if sanchez goes down for any significant time, that teaching part wont mean shit.
enough w/this garcia would want to start, how the hell do you know this? he knew he wasnt gonna start w/the eagles three years ago, and he still signed w/them.
OK Brothermoose, KC is about as good as Brunell right now. Brunell is 40 and the only two QBs i If I had to draw up a list of QBs, Brunell would not be in the top 100. I think you are more than satisfied having Brunell as a backup. Im not. Im happy with KC instead, although I would like an upgrade (which Brunell certainly isn't). I don't want anything to do with Brunell taking over snaps behind Mangold late in December. How pretty would that look for us??
Yeah, I agree 100%. If I was Garcia, I wouldn't just sit there hoping for starting opportunity. Just not going to happen right now unless there are major injury issues with a team. I wouldn't be scared seeing Garcia take snaps for us late in December though.
this is what i'm saying, brunell as a player is sooooooooooooooo done. now as a mentor/qb coach ok. but i dont want grandpa, who's arm is beyond dead, and who cant move anymore, taking any meaningfull snaps for us.
Now this is something to think about. I was there in Tampa when KC started last year and he was anything but inspiring...12 of 23 for 111 yards and no Int. Compared with Brunell's 15 of 30 for 101 yards and 1 Int. however, KC really may be the better choice. AFA on-field performance, I tend to agree with you...I'd rather have KC out there. Uninspiring yes, but he seemed to excel as a game manager, getting the W and not giving up the ball. The organization must feel that for a young QB like Sancho, a veteran presence with a whole lot of starting experience on the field with him during camp, practice, and warmups is what he needs at this stage in his development and that may outweigh the discrepancy in physical ability.
I would think the guy would still be looking to start, or at least with a team where he has a shot at it. The Jets would not be that team. The Eagles have always been on the fence about McNabb anyhow so I'm not surprised he landed there. Maybe money is a factor then if it isn't about starting. One thing is for sure... we don't seem to have any interest in him. Otherwise he'd been here and been courted.
As long as I never have to see Kellen Clemens take a snap in a Jets uniform again, I don't mind who we have as the older back up. I doubt that any of Garcia, Brunell or Ainge will be capable of spearheading a playoff campaign in the unthinkable event of Sanchez going down, so on that basis I'd probably like to see Ainge come in as the number two option. At least that way the Jets get the benefit of him picking up a little experience.
