Mariota Must Be a Jet

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  1. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Can't argue there; that's a MAJOR red flag, probably my biggest issue with him.
     
  2. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    With the rookie scale, I don't see why you wouldn't do the bold.
     
  3. TonyMaC

    TonyMaC Well-Known Member

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    Its kinda of a huge waste of resources…

    Sure the cap hit won't be huge, but drafting a QB in the first or second rounds consecutive year after consecutive year in lieu of high end prospects from other positions isn't a good way to build a team as a whole.

    Ironically, its almost a sure way of HURTING your potential franchise QB's development. I mean what if first or second round support is needed to make them better? what if they need time to adjust to the speed of the game? how logical is it to make assumptions of allayers career trajectory off of their first few months in the pros?

    if you let a lack of patience at the QB position keep you from drafting another a player from another position till you get an instant stud, you'll just find yourself with bunch of mishandled QB prospects and not a lot of support for the team their on.

    A little patience won't kill you, not enough of it will cause more problems than the shortcut was worth. thats doubly so if you trade up for somebody.

    if we draft Mariota, we're not gonna replace him next year with another QB should he struggle as a rookie. thats an asinine way of building a team, we should NOT be THAT desperate for a QB that we're willing to give everything else up for a potentially good one.

    QB matters, but building a good overall team matters much more. Go for value, not for broke.

    that said, if MM falls to us I take him, assuming that he's as a good a player as he seems right now and we're exactly where we are now.
     
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  4. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    The comment which cosigned was "...I want to bust on a QB every year until we find a true stud". The reality is you may have a pretty good idea […cough…Geno] but you won't know for sure if you have a bust in your hands every year. I agree with the premise of keep trying after you realize it whether that be after year 1, 2, 3…whatever. Don't let that deter you from trying again especially now that the cap ramifications are no longer as severe as they once were.
     
  5. b.reyes16

    b.reyes16 Well-Known Member

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    Not difficult=easy?

    We should think about making that trade because it can turn around a franchise that had struggled for years finding a QB. I think the Redskins will be the eventual winners, but right now, it looks bad which only helps with trading up.
     
  6. TonyMaC

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    okay, yeah, agreed on that front I guess. I'm of the mind that one year is never enough time to pass judgment on a QB though. Not unless you got a low round pick who probably wasn't starting anyway.

    i don't think the jets are in any condition to be trading up, not for a number one or two pick, no.

    we'd have to give up too much, most likely including a first or two or several seconds and thirds, i want a good QB but not at the expense of everything else.

    we CAN'T give up everything for a QB, thats a risky desperate answer that has a high chance of backfiring and leaving us strapped in other areas.
     
  7. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Lmao yeah let's sacrifice the future for a QB that's not a sure thing
     
  8. NYJetsO12

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    I have given up trusting Woody, Bradway , Idzik's opinon. Why haven't you? This is why Woody better see the light and get a Football Czar if he has brains to do it.
     
  9. HardHitta

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    I think Mariotta has a shot to be a good player. Let's say we do draft him that's fine but we need to switch this up and sit the rookie QB a year or two and go with a stop gap vet to hold it down.
     
  10. b.reyes16

    b.reyes16 Well-Known Member

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    What future? We don't have a future without a QB. Who the fuck should we play there? Matt Simms? We've seen this story play out over and over again. You cannot win in this league without a franchise QB and please do not point to guys like Dilfer. That is the exception not the rule. I'm usually in the no trade up camp, but we NEED a QB. I'm tired of watching shit at the QB position with guys who are complete question marks coming out.

    Now, they are never sure things, but Mariota is pretty damn close.
     
  11. SienaSaints

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    Kinda sucks that the Jets basically can't draft Winston. Unfortunately it will just perpetuate the Jets circus narrative.
     
  12. Jeti

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    Let's not do this
     
  13. JStokes

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    The only way to have long term sustainable success in the NFL is to have a true franchise QB.

    Mariota is the QB best prospect this year, is as good as or better than many of the QBs from an extremely strong class last year and is better than any of the QBs on the forseeable horizon.

    If we're anywhere near top 3 in this draft class we need to do what we can to get him. We may not have this shot again.

    Lol, so true.

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  14. Matt4776

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    Except for the part where he's not the best QB prospect in this draft.
     
  15. JStokes

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    It's all guessing at this point. You don't like him, that's fine.

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  16. Matt4776

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    I do like him. I wouldn't be pissed if we drafted him. I just don't think he's the best QB prospect in this draft. I'm not the one that keeps tooting anybody's horn as the definitive best QB prospect in the history of forever.
     
  17. JStokes

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    Who's better this year?

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    RubenDias Well-Known Member

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    On the field Jameis is the better player imo and its not even close but i belive mariotta will be picked higher then jameis due to caracther concerns.
     
  19. Matt4776

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    I'll take the Heisman winner and National Champion, Alex.
     
  20. JStokes

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    A--In my opinion, I think Mariota is actually a better player, but I can fully understand folks thinking Winston is better. But to say that it's "not even close" is silly. Winston is a much better player than Dak Prescott or Bryce Petty but not Mariota. IMHO.

    B--Winston DOES have the character concerns and you can NOT dismiss them when looking at the player who will be the leader of your team and the face of the franchise.

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