He's really impressive with improvisation and throwing on the run. But in the pocket, I'm not so sure.
he does a lot of option play, but the jets do that a ton now too. After most hand offs to our RB its an option its just that geno usually hands it off. Mariota has a completly new threat he is FAST. Like NFL fast he out runs everybody on the college field and can probably out run 80% of people on an NFL field. Also his passing on the run is amazing he can throw a bullet. Also i believe on his last TD pass last night he fit that ball in a tight window between the LB and CB im sold on Mariota. That being said i would not be mad at all if we draft cooper or mariota both are a good pick
I share your concerns. Is Mariota really the guy we want against a NFL defense when Jets are behind and it's third and long?
There is no choice to be made for the Jets. We need a QB first and foremost. You can pick up a "hold the fort type of guy" and just meander in no man's land till one falls in your lap or you can jump at the opportunity through the draft. I, like many of you, feel quite strongly that given the opportunity to draft Mariota we should pull the plug. There is hardly ever a sure thing when it comes to a QB selection, forecasting his ability to become great at the NFL level, short of maybe a Manning and Luck, but is hard to argue with the solid skill set and football smarts displayed by Mariota. His pluses way outweigh the minuses. If he was in a pro style college system dishing it out behind center in say, Florida, Alabama or even in California, playing behind a half solid OL he would be unquestionably the first pick of the draft IMHO. As with any selection there are risks that need to be evaluated and weighted by any capable scouting organization (cough, cough with the Jets) but if he lands on our lap are we going to be the one passing up on him? A team in desperate need of QB talent since time memorial with a chance to finally remedy that once and for all. Maybe Im way too naïve, but without any hesitation, I will forever take the chance and select a guy like Mariota with the risk of being proven wrong over the chance of passing up on a future Aaron Rodgers and continue to live in infamy for the next "God only knows" years. Playing in the NFL without a top tier QB is laughable, and hoping to reach the SB without one is as realistic as hoping to win the Formula I Grand Prix of Monte Carlo with a modified Prius. Like it or not, till we find our guy, our progress will be limited and our frustration unlimited.
Was that the knock Rodgers? Fortunately he got the benefit to ride the pine behind a 1st ballot HOF QB...... we all know that wont happen here.
I have been back and forth on Marcus but his speed is the reason why I am sold on him at this point. At about a 4.48 40 time, he would be the 2nd fastest QB taken in the draft since Vick. The other was RG3, and his knees are shot so that's not even a weapon for him anymore. After watching some Oregon games, there are just so many times that I see him running a long 50+ yard run for a TD that even really mobile guys like Wilson and Kaepernick are just running for 15 - 20 yards. Any team he faces that is lacking speed at linebacker and safety are just going to get wrecked. Pair him up with a guy like Percy Harvin, and a big TE target in Amaro and Marcus would actually be a perfect fit here.
Mariota's speed and running ability will keep defenses honest. Which will -Limit blitzes -Require more zone looks which means more passing lanes and running holes His skillset will open up the offense unlike anything this team has ever seen. All we need is the right Offensive Mind whether it be Coach or OC to put in the proper system to maximize what the kid offers. Ideally we run Oregon's offense but that isn't likely
It's pretty clear that he is the best quarterback prospect in this draft and probably the best since Andrew Luck. I think if we stay within the first 7 picks, we should probably trade up to the first pick, which may involved multiple 1st round draft picks. I would say that he is probably worth it, although it seems to be increasingly more difficult to assess these qb prospects. If we fall outside that top 7 threshold, the cost may be way too high. We may have to learn to live with Michael Vick for awhile.
my god that may be the worst opinion I've seen on here. Congratulations. Lets mortgage the future for an unproven, has never won anything major, QB. (FYI I wouldn't even trade up for Jameis so im not being bias.)
At this point I would rather take the gamble for a good QB. If we connect there, then everything else will follow. We have some decent weapons on offense now.
The NFL is completely qb driven and considering that the franchise will likely have new leadership next year, that means that yes, you take big gambles on potential franchise qbs. It won't matter that we have one of the best DLines in football or really any other position until the qb situatuion is solved. Mariota could easily be within reach and we need take advantage of it. Thanks for reminding me why I stopped visiting this messageboard. Congratulations, I don't care that you don't agree with me. And Jameis Winston? Apart from being a scumbag, if he turns over the ball against a mediocre ACC competiton, imagine how many interceptions he will throw against NFL defenses?
I'm likening up to the idea of Mariota on the Jets. Especially if we get a coach like Malzahn of Kelly.
I dont understand how we as a collective fan base does not understand this. We need to get that GUY and this is the year to roll the dice. The Redskins franchise was ruined by Daniel Snyder. But the RG3 gamble was the right strategy, they just picked the wrong guy. Turns out he was a complete flash in the pan his last year In college and has no football IQ. Mariota has been playing like this for 3 years and has a massive football IQ. _
Id be fine with that and if vick could stay healthy....let mariota sit and learn. I think the league is ruining qbs faster than they can make them. Honestly theres no reason to do that these days, regardless of the win now attitude. Iook at hoyer. He sat behind brady went to Cleveland and plays better than any qb on our roster. Hell if vick couldn't stay healthy then you get the other side of starting mariota sooner than later. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk
at least in my opinion. I think we have to get him this year. Im just getting concerned because I think teams like Washington might suddenly be qb needy. Unfortunately theres a chance they may win fewer games than us. Not that were good or anything. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk
taking a gamble on a QB would be waiting until th 2nd round to draft Hundley or Petty or might go later than the 2nd not giving away multiple 1st rounders to trade up, look what happened with the Redskins when they traded up for bum ass rg3
Been watching some of Mariota's game and I have to say I'm impressed more so now then I was last year. Here's what I like and dislike about him: + Scans the field always (imo his best attribute) + makes plays behind a bad O-line because he is mobile and can escape the pocket + if given time in the pocket he delivers a good ball + has a lot of speed as a runner + great arm strength - not the best accuracy (underthrows and overthrows are not uncommon for him) - a bit jittery in the pocket I don't know, I think he is a can't miss prospect, and he's probably better than anything in last years draft. He reminds me of Kaepernick in terms of his athleticism, but he has much better touch on his passes and a WAY better delivery. edit: in regards to last years draft, I''m not one hundred percent confident about that. I think Bridgewater is going to be really good.
Very fair assessment. I still think both Teddy and Carr are going to be very good, and last year when we were all squabbling in the draft threads, I always had Mariota and Teddy and Carr as my top 3 because I was assuming MM was coming out. That he stayed another year and has excelled makes me even more bold in my assessment. Understanding that we're all just guessing here. _
