Marcus Maye negotiations have "gone south"

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  1. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    we can tag him next year too if we want depends if we get a replacement. personlly i'd like to see him stick around until he's 32ish but it is what it is and the NFL is a business. I can't blame maye or the jets here. both are being professional about a bad situation.
     
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  2. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    Whatever happens with Maye, I just can't get upset over a good but not elite safety.
     
  3. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    I agree. I like Maye, but he's not Ed Reed.
     
  4. BacktoQueens

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    A bad situation?
    His contract is up, he's a great system fit, and the team has a lot of cap space.

    That sounds like a good situation for a contract extension.
    Of course the organization is about to make it bad situation instead, but I'm not sure it needed to be.
     
  5. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    Definitely not Ed Reed, but i don't see any indication that he's looking for HOF money either.

    There are 12 Safeties currently making over 10M per, and 6 of them making over 14M per.
    Jamal Adams and Minkah Fitzpatrick are about to join that group also.
    That's the current market.
     
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  6. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    Well we lost an elite Safety also..
    It gets difficult to fill all these holes when we keep creating new ones.
     
  7. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    Adams was elite here, but he's been mediocre in Seattle.
     
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  8. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    He missed a quarter of the season, and was never fully healthy, yet still managed to break the single season Sack record for DB's.
    He's elite.
     
  9. PJ4Ever

    PJ4Ever Well-Known Member

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    He was also exposed in coverage bc he can only guard TE. Can’t cover a WR for his life.
     
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  10. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    yeah 2 sides that can't work out a deal is a bad situation but both are being professional about it
     
  11. statjeff22

    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    No, that’s the top of the market. There are 60 starting safeties in the NFL, so by your numbers only the top 20% are making over $10 million. Maye is one of them after signing the franchise tag. It seems that the Jets aren’t sure that he’s in the top 10% of safeties in the league, which to me is not evidence of them creating a bad situation. You might disagree about whether he is a top 10% starting safety, but it’s hardly a ridiculous position that he isn’t one.
     
  12. Northlaker620

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    Lets see Maye do it again(and stay healthy). The NY media is trying to stir up controversy(always negative). His franchise money for this year is NOT chump change. The key in today's NFL is effectively managing the cap and NOT over paying as in using your head(Douglas) and NOT your heart or the media(Rex, McCagnan, the Johnsons) with contract proposals.
     
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  13. PennyandtheJets

    PennyandtheJets Well-Known Member

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    The Jets made the CORRECT decision tagging Marcus Maye.

     
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  14. ColoradoContrails

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    Hey, wait a minute! Our previous "genius" GM, Maccagnan, invested his first TWO picks to grab Safeties, despite QBs like Mahomes and Watson being available! What does Joe know that Macc didn't?
     
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    Good take, but I disagree. I think Maye has done yeoman's work here.

    The corners are trash. They were trash last year, the year before, and they are still trash going into 2021. Without Maye's heady play on the back end, I think we'd have the worst pass defense in the NFL
     
  16. ColoradoContrails

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    Well said. And while I can sympathize to a degree with Maye, the fact is that he made choices - and I don't know what they were - that caused him to not come into the NFL until he was 24. Had he arrived at 21 or 22, he'd be 25-26 now and it would likely be an entirely different negotiation. But those choices he made that delayed his arrival were his, not Douglas's.
     
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  17. ColoradoContrails

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    Like it or not, the NFL has always been an owner's league, and players have been historically underpaid. They've never been able to apply the leverage that baseball and basketball players did. I think they should be paid much better than they are, but that's not how the NFL is set up. Furthermore, the reality is that football players play a lot less games than the other sports. I haven't done the math, but it would be interesting to see the "pay per minute of play" value for football players vs. other sports.

    In Maye's case, he's a very good Safety, but:

    1. Safety is NOT a premium positions, despite what Mike Maccagnan believes.
    2. He hasn't ever made All Pro.
    3. He has broken up a lot of plays, but he has very poor hands and hasn't gotten a lot of INTs out of all that.
    4. He's 28 and on the verge of hitting the historical downhill part of his career.
    5. I fully understand that he wants to be rewarded for his past efforts and his team-oriented attitude, but his first contract WAS the reward for that effort, and being a "team player" is nice, but doesn't warrant All Pro money.

    Douglas is operating exactly how most successful NFL GMs have operated. Sometimes that means making tough decisions on sentimental fan favorites, but that's the NFL and he's doing what he needs to do. It's about time the Jets have a competent GM!
     
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    Cman65 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Maye is as good as gone. We don't pay safetys or kickers.
     
  19. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    If you call the agent leaking the details of the negotiations to the press professional than yes they’re both being professional
     
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  20. NCJetsfan

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    Excellent points and post! Good to see you back.
     
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