Mangini's camp too tough?...Here's the Alternative..(Herm's Camp)

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  1. jetsfan119

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    I cant stand herm, I hope KC sucks this year
     
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    "Its not hot. If it was hot, would I be wearing a long sleeve shirt?"
     
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    He's even wackier than he was in NY now. God save the Chief fans! Oh, my lord.... Herm is going to end up in an institution for the crimanally insane... or is that "inane"?
     
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    Too bad for KC, they don't have the defense to play a conservative O.
     
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    Need to be a member to view it, can we just use your login? I assume its the usual; id=KOZ password=luvfuzzyslippers

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    Didnt his password used to be eyedeaismyfriend ?
     
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    It looks like he may have been telling them the chicken story in interpretive dance.

     
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    Herm. :rofl: :smile: I live about 45 minutes from Chiefs camp. That rain Herm was speaking of lasted only about 4-5 hours on Tuesday and I find it kind of peculiar that he spoke of the field conditions as being so wet that they could not practice. He easily could have had an evening practice and those fields would have been dry. They are in immaculate condition. Strange thing is the Vikings practice about an hour and a half away in Mankato and they experienced similar weather conditions and they practiced. TWICE!!!!! :grin: Now Herm is quoted up here as saying they were ready to travel to the University of Minnesota to practice indoors if needed. Seems bizarre to me.
     
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  11. Buttle

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    A tough camp is not needed anymore. In the old days coaches used training camp to get players into shape. Ahletes are expected to be in shape 12 months a year now. The only benefit I se in a tough camp is improving mental displine and desire. But if you look at Herm's record his team was always one of the most displined teams in the league. They commited close to the fewest penalties and turnovers.

    Herm's camp was unusual when he started with the Jets now its becoming the norm as other organizations have begun to adapt to more modern exercise theory. Besides last year his camps were successful in keeping injuries to a minimum and his team still was at the top of the league year in and out in mental penalties.

    Its to early to tell about how well Mangini's camp works out. But one should not be suprised if the players revolt against Mangini if the team gets off to a poor start. Mangini does not have the credibilty and respect that older coaches have earned. Having such an attitude and treating his players with such disrespct may come back to haunt him. While I hope its not the case we may be looking for a new coach next year.
     
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    What in the world are you talking about? "treating players with such disrespect"? try reading some camp reports.... see yer shrink. Such "an attitude"? Man, you.... just have no clue whatsoever. :breakdance:
     
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    The players are already in shape, huh? You mean like last year in KC? And nobody was injured at that point. You Herm faithfuls really impress me. You don't think the 01, 02 and 05 starts had anything to do with Herm's soft camps? You don't find it strange that the one year when reports were Herm was running a tougher camp ('04) we got off to our best start, 5-0? Teams may be running lighter camps, but Herm takes it to a new level. Does anyone else's camp get likened to a vacation resort? The guy is notorious for running light camps, you're really reaching trying to rationalize it.

    And you're already suspecting that Mangini will be one and done, based on a week of camp. Rich! :rofl:

    Maybe you should read up more. Mangini has already started to lighten camp up based on recent reports, with the players in shells, more water breaks, and he adjusted the schedule to make it easier on the players in the heat. He's not running a boot camp.
     
  14. Section 227. Row 5

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    You have got to be Herm's brother-in-law.
     
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    This thread has given me the motivation to stop being a lurker and join the party.

    I completely believe that this coach is at a one hundred percent success rate when it comes to knowledge of running a training camp. I honestly prefer this over Herm's "throw the ball around" style. No matter how experienced you are with football, no matter how good you are, conditioning is what matters most. One never loses the ability to catch a ball, but he can surely lose his ability to catch up to it.
     
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    Welcome aboard!
     
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    can someone be banned for making the most ridiculous post in the history of message boards????at least a week no?
     
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    Seriously, I just don't know where to start. I actually thought you were joking, so I waited until you got back to us acknowledging this. You are apparently serious.

    1) "Last year his camps were successful in keeping injuries to a minimum." We became decimated with injuries. Of course there were no injuries in camp, but then again, there was nothing going on! However, from the moment we took the field, injuries began occurring and it ultimately killed us. Poor conditioning, lousy preparation, soft attitudes and lack of work ethic destroyed us before we ever got started. You can't sell Herm's soft camp ideas here.

    2) "One should not be suprised if the players revolt against Mangini." That crack pipe must really be something. Revolt against Mangini? I haven't seen halucinations like this since Timothy Leary got together with Bob Dylan up at the Newport Jazz Festival in 1969.

    3) "Mangini does not have the credibilty and respect that older coaches have earned." He's earning it right now and doing a good job of it. So far most Jets fans like the direction in which he's taking this team.

    4) "Having such an attitude and treating his players with such disrespct may come back to haunt him." At the end of the season, players may think a lot of things about Mangini, but "disrespect" doesn't come to mind. Disrespect why? Because he's pushing them hard? You know absolutely nothing about what motivates teamwork, self-respect, confidence and discipline. People within a unit that are about to go to war want to be pushed, want to compete and want to function under harsh, severe and even hostile conditions and come out the other side knowing they can take anything the opposition throws at them. It's builds cohesiveness, confidence and commeraderie. Disrespect? Even if they have a losing season, they will, to a man, respect Mangini for what he tried to accomplish and will, to a man, look forward to next year's practice.

    5) "We may be looking for a new coach next year." Woodie Johnson is not about to "look for a new coach next year." Where on earth can you possibly be getting these ideas from? Seriously, you may want to check on some sort of chemical imbalance.

    All seriousness aside, while everyone is entitled to their opinion, I'd sooner believe in flying saucer sightings than attribute one ounce of sense to anything within this post.
     
  20. 10nyjets87

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    I heard herm said that priest is almost ready to practice.. Hes 77 percent recovered.
     

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