...making Ryan Mathews a household name.

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  1. Ice717

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    I cant wait till Mathews gets more touches, he hasn't had a chance, to get in a rhythm yet
     
  2. Harpua

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    Thats funny. You try to blame it on "hive mind".

    I've had many disagreements with E in the past. There is more in fighting around here than there should be, but thats because there are so many differing opinions. The key thing is to agree to dis agree and not be childish about it.

    Another thing is, when the majority of those around you dislike you or your actions, its less likely "hive mind" and more likely that you are the problem Nice try at deflecting the blame . It didn't work worth a damn, but still nice try.
     
  3. Rockefella

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    stop feeding the troll.
     
  4. ace_o_spades

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    Did Matthews have a fumbling problem in college? He's lost 2 in 2 games so far as a pro.
     
  5. DisgruntledLionFan

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    But how do decide to draft him and then have trouble figuring out how to use him? Shouldn't you already have a plan or at least an outline of how exactly he's going to help your team?

    I do know one thing. I'd be extremely pissed off if they used Best primarily as a KR.

    As for Best, he's still finding his way running the ball. His OL doesn't help him that much, but his vision and feel haven't helped, either.

    But when you do multiple things that haven't been done by a rook in over 20+ years, especially for this wretched franchise, you'll definitely get a pass from me.
     
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    I do think there's some truth to the thought that Buffalo was showcasing Lynch for a trade.
    Buffalo has been a bad team...but they actually haven't been terrible rushing the ball over the past couple of years.

    Cream rises to the top, and I expect Spiller's touches to increase pretty soon.
     
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    They are trying to keep him fresh for the CFL defenses.
     
  8. Mr Electric

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    No. He actually only lost one fumble during his entire collegiate career. I'm pretty surprised by his ball security so far.
     
  9. Rockefella

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    I don't necessarily doubt RM's talent as I think he's well-rounded and could be very solid behind a good O-line. Problem is that I find him overrated coming out of the WAC. He has adequate power but he's not a bruiser type: Shonn Greene, Brandon Jacobs (few years ago), Frank Gore. His speed is impressive as well but his acceleration is lacking especially after contact. From what I've gathered his 'vision' on his inside runs is good but I'm not sure if I can chock that up entirely to talent or to shoddy DL/LB play. A lot of his broken tackles were through half-way there arm tackles at the line of scrimmage or at the corners. What makes his yardage and average so impressive was his ability to break home-runs for TDs in that conference. A plus yes, but in a conference like the SEC, Pac10, or Big10 the numbers wouldn't be nearly as inflated.

    TL;DR: Ryan Mathews does many things well, but doesn't necessarily excel and outshine the bunch anywhere. I don't think he's 'special' in the same realm as someone like AP, Chris Johnson, or Ray Rice. Take that as you will but for a first round draft pick in SD, I think he'll be a 800yd back with 150 receiving averaged out over the years. Could do much better or far worse, but I'm no fortune teller. Neither are any of you though.
     
  10. Mr Electric

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    I know you're trying to make yourself look like credible poster, but you that's not gonna happen in this thread.

    You just called a running back a bust two games into his professional career, when we have Shonn Greene on our roster - a guy that didn't even get a carry until Week 4 last season.

    I'm not trying to say the WAC is a good conference, because it's definitely not but these numbers you're about to see will make your post looks like complete garbage.

    These are some of Mathews' stats against Big Six conference teams:

    2009

    BIG 10's Wisconsin - 19 carries for 107 yards

    BIG EAST's Cincinnati - 38 carries for 145 yards and 2 TDs

    BIG 10's Illinois - 32 carries for 173 yards and 3 TDs

    2008

    PAC-10's UCLA - 21 carries for 166 yards and a TD

    BIG EAST's Rutgers - 23 carries for 163 yards and 3 TDs

    BIG 10's Wisconsin - 17 carries for 54 yards and 1 reception for 61 yards

    Fresno, Nevada, and Boise can play and beat almost anybody. I don't give a god damn what conference they're in. They're talented teams.
     
  11. Rockefella

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    Done with this thread. Not gonna deal with the heckling.

    Just to humor you: I left out the Big East for a reason. I've seen first hand what Ray Rice and LeSean McCoy did to Big East teams. The stats against Wisconsin are pedestrian. UCLA's impressive but it's not like he's not allowed to have a big game.
     
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  12. Mr Electric

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    ...and this matters because?

    Ray Rice and LeSean McCoy are very good NFL backs.

    You mentioned Brandon Jacobs as a power back in one of your previous posts. He did most of his damage at a FCS school after he transferred from Auburn. He couldn't get playing time behind Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams. I find it pretty funny that you're going to use conference prestige against Mathews and not against Jacobs.

    Mathews has all of the tools he needs to succeed at this level. His ball security so far has been suspect, but that can be fixed - the only thing that will hold him back are injuries.
     
  13. Rockefella

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    I used brandon jacobs as an example of his power at the RB position. I personally think Jacobs is an overrated, borderline terrible running back. Might as well play full back.
     
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    #194 Rockefella, Dec 14, 2010
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