Making a Splash in Free Agency

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  1. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

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    It keeps getting back to the question of" Do you wait until you have a dependable OL to grab a QB - quite possibly missing out on your potential FQB, or do you grab the potential FQB if he's there, and build around him?

    To answer that question, you have to first answer this one: Is it easier to find dependable OL or FQBs? Obviously, it's easier to find OL, so if you have that rare opportunity to grab a potential FQB, you have to take him.
     
  2. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    Lol @ Building through the draft.Mac and Bowles are another bad year away from being fired dont think there gonna see it this way.There is no building through the draft without a franchise QB to build around.
     
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  3. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    My QB grades (and I like taking offensive players)

    2017

    Watson Meh

    Mahomes Interesting

    Trubinsky Double Meh

    2018

    Darnold Immediate Starter

    Rosen Immediate Starter


    That said a good strategy is to draft a QB every year, at some round of the draft, till your miracle happens...for this year I would take P Mahomes

    jmho
     
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  4. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    I agree with the Mahomes selection.
     
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  5. Attackett

    Attackett Well-Known Member

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    Very in depth scouting report, surprised no team has snatched you up for their draft preparations.
     
  6. LAJet

    LAJet Well-Known Member

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    Well, the only way to get our franchise QB is thru the draft, unless we want to overpay for a short term risky wonder. So we need to dip into the QB draft pool till we find one. Meantime any QB needs a team around him, so I wouldn't dismiss the power of the draft quite yet. The real question mark to me is this: Will Bowles be able to get the most out of the rookies this year or will he die by the vets performance and the same old game plan?
     
  7. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    This is the perfect scenario for TB to go all in with the youth movement. He needs to sit down with Woody and tell him that the year might be bad but it's a small price to pay when you consider that the core group of guys will be the foundation of the team for years to come.

    Mac needs to do a good job with the draft and Woody needs to resist the urge to start over with a new GM.
     
  8. LAJet

    LAJet Well-Known Member

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    1000% right.
    The front office cant have it both ways. Put the youth movement in motion now. Mac needs to pull the rabbit out of the hat with this draft and the HC needs to show what he can do by playing the rookies.
     
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  9. Rockinz

    Rockinz Well-Known Member

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    Look at TBs track record with the Cards. He loves vets. No way he wants to be the guy who falls on his sword with rook ies
     
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  10. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Maybe Mac learned to sign & trade for guys with talent that aren't at the end of their career/will be here deeper than two years. Hopefully that first year of free agency at least taught him something because it certainly didn't set us up for long term success.
     
  11. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Westie, that absolute BS and you know it! Petty ran for his life, took a beating and wound up on IR. The interior 3 were ok, the the two most important positions the tackles, were not ok.

    Fitz doesn't take many sacks. That's one of his few positive traits. Of course, the downside of that trait is that he doesn't take many sacks, because he makes up his mind where he's going with the ball before it is even snapped, and so winds up frequently throwing into double and triple coverage and can't see guys who are wide open.
     
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  12. Patriot

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    What would Belichick do if he was the Jets GM and coach? Ok I am not a Bill Belichick, but I can tell you this.

    He would not waste money on expensive free agents. He would look for older inexpensive free agents who can help bring a winning attitude. He would trade down in the draft and look to get more draft choices to develop better backups and more depth in the team. He would look at what players were cut from good teams to pickup. Any player not giving 100%, not showing up early to practice/meetings, and not staying after practice/meetings is released or cut. He would work the team hard and toughen them up. Hence a long term plan to better the team.

    However the owner and the NY media would not be happy. The NY media would be annoyed that no flashy players were signed. The owner would be concerned that without any flashy players he will not sell tickets.

    Sure this Belichick plan is boring and will not produce quick results, but it would be the best plan.
     
  13. TonyFtLaud

    TonyFtLaud Well-Known Member

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    You missed the first move he would make.
    Resign and move to NE.
    Then the rest falls right into place
     
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  14. TwoHeadedMonster

    TwoHeadedMonster Well-Known Member

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    Actually, yes, the Patriots Oline is terrible. When Brady is in, they're allowed to hold with impunity, and when Brady is out, they aren't given that privilege, thus the backups get hurt.
     
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    That begs the question, do you really think any of the guys available this year are that FQB? I don't see it. I don't see any QBs or OTs worth taking at 6. Thus, I say, drop back if you can and get some more picks.

    IMHO if the Jets stay at 6 they are best served taking one of the premier Safeties available, preferably Hooker. Hard to get excited about a Safety when we have so many needs. Hard to get excited about an Ohio State player ever. TRADE DOWN!

    *The problem, of course, remains that there's nobody worth drafting at 6, so there's certainly nobody worth trading up to 6 for....
     
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  16. westiedog1

    westiedog1 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe Petty ran for his life because he wasn't prepared to play. That's what Bowles said, and that's what some of his teammates said. Any D (worth it's salt) is going to put as much pressure as they can on a new QB to rattle him. Petty has to know he's going to be tested. All QB's go through the trial of fire. The good ones figure out how to counter it. Petty hasn't done that yet. Both Mannings took beatings their first year too, but they didn't end up on IR. This is football, Petty better toughen up.
     
  17. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Safety is a need, and more than likely will be one of the BPAs at 6. Hard to trade down, the scenario and compensation needs to be perfect on both ends. Trading down isn't as easy as it sounds, Mac tried trading up and down in both drafts.
     
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  18. westiedog1

    westiedog1 Well-Known Member

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    Oh, I see! So the Pats O line gets flagged for holding more when Brady isn't playing. I assume you have stats to back this up?
     
  19. TwoHeadedMonster

    TwoHeadedMonster Well-Known Member

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    A little weird to quote part of my post, but not the part where I talk about it being hard to trade down, then comment on how hard it is to trade down. :confused:
     
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  20. TwoHeadedMonster

    TwoHeadedMonster Well-Known Member

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    Sure don't. I don't have the stats on hand to tell me that a corvette is faster than a john deere, either.
     

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