Mahomes without his 2 best OL

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  1. NOVAJET

    NOVAJET "2020 TGG Fantasy Football Champ"

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    We have no idea truly why he wants out and I think it has little to do with the GM, HC decisions and more to do with Easterby calling his mother. Again, noone really knows outside his circle. It's way premature to make silly accusations.
     
  2. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Well. The headlines read that he's upset that he didn't have more input over the coach and GM hire. So that's not really speculation. But we're here to discuss and speculate.

    There could be 100 reasons weighted on a scale of why he mostly wants out to minute reasons of things that really piss him off.

    I think him not getting the GM and coach he wanted was the biggest reason coupled with the fact that they have absolutely zero resources to build a competitive team next year and he's stuck in at minimum a two-year rebuild. All the other stuff that goes along with it could be true, but it also could be drummed up BS to paint the player in a better light. Especially since the player usually comes off in a negative light in these situations.
     
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  3. Rockinz

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    Mahomes was still ridiculously accurate throwing off every platform imaginable. He ran for his life and still hit guys who dropped the passes because they too couldn’t believe it was coming. If we drafted him no matter how bad we are we would of been in the mix because of players who would want to play with him.
     
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  4. Gremlin

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    Mahomes gave his team the most unlikely of shots to actually win despite the TB defense being all over him. Hill had a TD bounce off his facemask, Kelce was sub-par when they needed him to step-up and his own D couldn't get off the field when they had chances to end drives or even reduce them to FG's.
     
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  5. Footballgod214

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    Mahomes was running for his life the entire game. He was taking some nasty sacks, 2 he barely got up from. He was seeing ghosts. And he will be seeing the same ghosts in his dreams for months to come. This one game may have ruined him.
     
  6. bicketybam

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    Just stop. Seriously. Seeing ghosts is 11/32 86 yards and 4 INT's. That's a passer rating of 3.6 I don't think I have to tell you who put up those numbers.

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  7. Gremlin

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    Mahomes was seeing the pressure he just couldn't do anything about it as the coverage was holding and he still managed to escape and extend and more often then not he gave his guys a chance to make a play by getting the ball out.

    He was fully aware of what was occuring he just couldn't do anything about it, maybe with experience he'll check to a different play but after the first Hill drop in the endzone he was playing catch-up and had to move the ball.

    Tampa Bay really did have an awesome game.
     
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    In November, Brady threw 3 picks against the Saints with a passer rating of 40.4. Ruined forever.
     
  9. Losmeister

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    jet fans.... smfh... anything to prop up a bust QB slection
     
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  10. Losmeister

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    gimme a break. rush 4 sit back.

    ooh!!! genius
     
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  11. Losmeister

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    shaq barrett jpp and devin white make almost any DC look good.
     
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  12. jilozzo

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    certainly, plus the OL shuffle for KC obviously didnt help.
     
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  13. Br4d

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    Good teams have plans that look forward for years.

    Bad teams get a potentially great player and then run around holding him up like he is the answer until they inevitably fall down and get him all dirty.

    Then they start from scratch again.

    The Jets are a bad team. Hopefully JD has a plan to make them a good team.

    If the Jets had drafted Mahomes he would be hitting free agency this off-season with a 'Good Riddance!' sign taped to his back.
     
  14. TurkJetFan

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    he also had turf toe on top of that requiring surgery and his WR's were dropping everything in sight. but ok.
     
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  15. SoylentGreen

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    Gotta give Mahomes credit...

    Any other guy plays that crappy in a SB and people would simply say he sucked...

    Completed 53% of his passes, 3/13 on 3rd down, 1/3 on 4th and 113 yards through 3 Qtrs + nearly threw several other picks (in addition to the 2 he did throw).

    Put up garbage yards in the 4th when so far behind that Tampa called off the dogs + gave up easy throws over the middle for time...

    Was not a good game at all so for people to come out in droves to make over the top excuses, you gotta tip your hat to just how good he’s been.

    Yeah he wasn’t supported, but it was nothing more than we’ve seen game in and game out as Jets fan... was actually sort of refreshing to see a SB caliber team look so inept... maybe we’re not as far away as we all think. :)
     
  16. REVISion

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    Regarding the bold - that's just not true. Jets WR's had a pretty low drop rate this year, definitely lower than league average. Mahomes also faced more pressure than Sam ever did this year. Sam had more time to throw than the average QB did this season.
     
  17. SoylentGreen

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    Just because you say something over and over does not make it true.

    The Jets allowed pressure in 2.5 seconds or less on 28 percent of their dropbacks in 2020 — the worst rate in the whole NFL.

    Yes, Mahomes was pressured at a very high percentage of plays in the SB, but not all was on the oline (or less than 2.5 seconds), Mahomes also ran around trying to make something out of nothing (ran 497 yards they say) + held on to the ball too long. No one was open (just like the Jets). KC runs a ton of read option, he could+should have handed the ball off a lot more which may have alleviated some of the pressure he was under. Helaire avg’d 7.1/carry... that’s on Mahomes. What do you think Tom Brady, Manning or Brees would do. I think the GOAT talk was premature, but Mahomes will learn from this experience. You’ll never see a game where the Jets avg those yards running the ball...

    When you are arguably the most pressured Qb in the league does pointing to the drop % really mean anything?

    I’m not sure there’s a skilled player who could start on the Chiefs... We saw Bell couldn’t...
     
  18. REVISion

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    My claim is accurate, if you take issue with it take it up with PFF. They just released their seasonal QB report yesterday and it said Sam had slightly more time to throw before being pressured than the average QB.
     
  19. SoylentGreen

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    interesting as PFF ranked the Jets o-line 29 of 32.
    they also were the ones where the 2.5 second stat I got came from.
     
  20. PJ4Ever

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    Lol
     
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