You know, what bothers me most is fans blaming the coach for the GM's inept ability to select the right players or buy the groceries. We want to blame Hack or Petty for not being better, but the fact of the matter is both of them can't hit a 3 yard pass on a consistent basis. I am sure that was evident in their college tape, how much do you evaluate the system the player played in at college? You pick the best players to field the best football team, not appease the head coach, I don't understand these theories that the organizational structure is the true problem, fans just want to fire the HC that's all. The Morton offense has to improve, but it has a solid foundation. Organizational power should have nothing to do with this. GM and HC should always be on the same page. I still blame Schottenheimer for Sanchez's issues, however if the Jets protected him better and got him weapons, more than likely we as fans would've looked past Schottenheimer. Sanchez was able to play in that system and actually thrive in year 3, but he broke down and that year ended his career or progression IMO. That system wasn't QB friendly at all; it didn't fit anyone's skill-sets specifically, it surely didn't fit Marks. Timing is everything and it looks like we are heading towards another potential let a QB learn a system, fire a coach and let him learn a new system.
I don't think this is fair at all. I'm not going to pretend like we historically succeed at developing QBs... but by this logic, any coaching staff should be able to take any QB with any talent and turn them into a starter. That's just not how it goes. A bad QB is bad because they are bad, not solely because the coaching staff can't fix their problems.
Regardless of what happens with the rest of the CS and FO, I'd love to somehow retain Morton. I think his offense in very QB friendly, despite what Petty and Hack would cause the untrained eye to believe. Wash, rinse, repeat.
That's not what I said so I'll clarify. We have never had a Good QB coach or developmental QB program in place so it didn't matter who was there. I understand not every QB is a Brees but my point is that it wouldn't have mattered because we don't know wtf were doing with QB's That was my point.
New coach gonna want his guys in here, I mean if the Jets really don't believe in Mac / Bowles, its better to make the switch now then to wait a year. I like the system Morton has implemented, he needs to improve his play calling, but I think he can be a good OC in this league for sure. That's why I would rather keep Bowles, he made some solid hires on the offensive side of the ball. Bowles has to fire his DC however.
This is all on Mac obviously and this is his last offseason to make it right. Mayfield and Jackson may be staring him right in the face. Your move, Mac.
I understood your point, but you literally said it can all be attributed to the coaching staff. That's just not fair.
I actually think this is what will happen. I think we can still end up with a 5th or 6th pick.... Correct me if I'm wrong please, so we can move up or we will take someone. I honestly wouldnt mind doing a washing and taking a 1st rd and late round qb Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
For three years this regime has commited to two career losing QB’s rather than develop a a young QB with the sole purpose to pass mediocrity off as an attempt to win and improvement. And the fans bought it.
MY biggest problem w the QB development plan is that Bowles isn’t even on board w it.Morton coming in & saying Petty in year 3 &. Hack in year 2 were essentially rookies was very telling & tells you how much of a failure this plan has been. Maybe MAC hates young QBS just as much as Bowles does!
Funny how the game was close and within reach with Petty yet the defense folded like a cheap tent again. Does anybody ever call out those pussies and the game(s) they played. I mean they are all first round picks (Mo, LW, Lee, Claiborne,Adams) and they get gashed each and every week. Last I check football is a team sport.
I like what Morton has done as well. Yes, his play calling has been questionable at times, but he's a first year play caller. If anyone, regardless of the level of football, expects to just walk in their first year and call an offense with the best of the best, then they're delusional. It's not going to happen. It takes a couple of years to find your footing as a play caller. What you look for in the meantime is the system that's been implemented, and Morton's put a pretty good one in place. The only way that I'd actually be able to stomach the hire of another defensive-minded HC would be if he were keeping Morton in place much like Rex did with Schottenheimer back in 2009. The problem with the Jets is that the side of the ball that really matters has been neglected for years while they just keep pumping money and draft picks into the defensive side of the ball, with rather mixed results. Add to that the fact that the HC's expertise is the defensive side of the ball and he's getting so-so results, and it makes it hard to get excited about continuing on with whatever plan it is he has in place. He's got the better players on his side yet it seems like he's being outcoached by the guy on the other side who has less to work with.
well,i mean, the d turned the saints over 3 times and were rewarded with 3 points for their effort. to think the defense was the reason we lost that game vs the #1 offense is just wrong. mccown might have won that game
C'mon, that's not how the game went about ... Petty did nothing in the entire 2nd half until maybe 2 mins left on the clock in the 4th ... defense kept the saints quiet the entire 3rd, wheres the outrage for that?
You serious? They kept the #1 offense in the league completely in check for a majority of the game. Petty let them down time after time.
I was looking at the score online and it was close the entire game. Then it was 19-24. Then boom 31 to 19 in seconds. Looked at the gamecast the stinking lousy defense gave up a 50 yard run to Ingram. His second big runfest through our highly paid, highly drafted defense. So I'm not blaming Petty for that lost after sitting on the bench for 14 weeks. Maybe if he would have started day one he wins that game. We'll never know.
