I hope so, I want Winston but with the new staff in place I would be ok with MM, I can't take another year of Geno.
Franchise Qbs don't grow on trees. There are only a couple of them. So to me you can't try to continually build around that position (and in a make or break fashion). If one falls to your franchise then you can build around him. If not then you have to go in another direction. A team can win with an adequate Qb but sure you'd love to have a great one. Look at all of the commitment the Redskins have put into RG3 when in fact he's not a franchise Qb. Luck is the exception to the rule.
I agree with all of that although I'd live with another year of Geno if Winston or MM are drafted and the coaching staff think the rookie QB would be better served by a year on the bench. That philosophy is going out of style in the NFL but since they're both coming out early an extra year to learn might be more beneficial than being thrown in the deep end on a rebuilding offense.
Even with my reservations about Mariota if he's there at our pick you take him, he's a bright kid with all the physical tools for the position but just needs some grooming for the pro game but he has the mental capacity for it.
Brady and Rodgers both rode the bench for a while before making their debuts. There's definitely nothing wrong with doing that. Sanchez and Geno were mishandled from the standpoint of being ready to lead their teams and be "the man". Hopefully the new leadership doesn't screw that up if they end up bringing in a rookie.
You will need to take another yr of Geno if we draft MM - MM should not see the field in yr 1. Unless we find another veteran QB somehow ... Mac says they will be aggressive in FA so it should be interesting to see what transpires.
There are two low hanging fruit this year that could be. All we need is some luck and some gumption. Otherwise we'll be spinning our wheels for another decade. _
Watching the PC made me realize how bad Woody looks in the public eye, hopefully he doesn't act like that when the cameras aren't around but he looks like an idiot, who introduces their new GM and HC with a folded piece of paper in their pocket like a 9 year old.
I wouldn't take a QB just because they are what's available... I'd want to feel like whoever I'm drafting is truly a game changing transformational winner that's destined to win the Super Bowl and an MVP award in the process. The Jets certainly didn't feel that way about Geno Smith, otherwise they wouldn't have passed on him twice before finally accepting that he fell into their laps in the second. That first pick could have a huge impact at another position if the QBs on the board are not the answer. Not saying they aren't, but assuming Maccagnan decides one of them is, I hope to hell he feels strongly about that.
Look, I would totally love to get a franchise Qb. But it usually doesn't work out. But I'd go for Mariotta if he falls to 6. The guy is still a project and really no better in college than Ryan Tannehill or Andy Dalton. Both ok but not franchise Qbs.
I have never advocated that. Said it a dozen times, taking the top QB in a draft full of weak QBs is like dating the skinniest chick at the fat farm. I would never have taken any QB in 2013. In 2014 I would have taken either Teddy or Carr at 18 irrespective of where they went. I'd take Mariota or Winston at 6 or trade up for either, but wouldn't take any other QB in the draft. _
you loved johnny 8-ball don't lie.... and mettenberger.. and bortles... and even had good things to say about Vag Boyd... You weren't around here in the Geno Smith draft but I bet at the time you were a lover of that draft pick and now that Smith, Mettenberger, 8-ball and Bortles all suck properly inflated balls you have this narrative after the fact. I think you just have "QB-envy" and want desperately for our Jets to grab a great one. It's okay because I feel the same way in many ways but it makes your love of Mariota questionable given your love for most, if not all, QB prospects.
First things first--my true loves have been ONLY Teddy, Carr and Mariota. For years. I knew very little about Bortles and never thought we'd have a shot but I saw some skills and some size and an arm and athleticism. I still like Manziel but always called him a wild card and an enigma--boom or bust. Would have been a hoot to have drafted him. I still like Mettenberger and had he not gotten injured he would have gone in the first too, but that injury may have opened the door up for TN to skip the QB this year. You're Geno comment is so far off you couldn't be more wrong. I saw him play live 3 times in college, I watched him a lot in the Big East and we have family friends that went to WVU and I continued to watch him in the Big 12. Probably watched 25 of his games. I was at his last shitty college game of his career in the Pinstripe Bowl. Wanted nothing to do with him. Was looking at the 2014 draft as a year to take the QB and I felt it then that Geno would be the reason we wouldn't take one. Like two of my true loves--Teddy and Carr. You know who I didn't love? Manuel and Geno and Glennon and Barkley and Nassib and Wilson and Jones and Sorenson and Dysert and Savage and Thomas and Wenning and Gilbert and Locker and Ponder and Gabbert and Weeden and Cam (yeah, don't like him) and Dalton and Clausen and McCoy. And the only reason I started following Boyd was beacuse of the way he lit up my Orangemen in the Dome when I was visiting my son for Family Weekend. So sue me. _
I'd never trade up. Mariotta could be good but he's really not projected to be a franchise Qb. When you look back at guys who were projected to be potential franchise Qbs most of them aren't. I'd have no problem trading down and loading up on good O-linemen. I wouldn't spend a 6 on an o-lineman but would love to trade back to around 20 and pick one up plus another in the 2nd round. You build your infrastructure first.
One thing is for sure, Geno is not going to be handed the starting job next season Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
We should have learned our lesson on projected franchise Qbs from Mark Sanchez. Mark is the norm because he didn't make it. But the commitment to him was something that negatively affected the franchise. I'd go with someone like Hoyer and Geno next season. Of course you can't win with a turnover machine or a bottom of the rung Qb. You need someone who can play the Qb position and at least be able to manage a game.
