D. Ware had 2 sacks and like 2 forced fumbles nad a pick or something in his first pre-season game... I think that guy was a monster from day 1.
Taylor also said that he had an advantage when he came into the Giants because the 3-4 was new, so he didn't have to "come up to speed"... nobody was up to speed, so he never felt like he was behind in learning the system. If anything, he was ahead (and Mike complimented him and said, "You WERE the system!"). But I think the point LT was trying to make about Gholston is that everybody else is up to speed around him and everything is so very fast, so it's not surprising that it's taking him a while and he feels "behind." He also needs to "know" the defense around him... what all the guys are going to do and where they'll be, etc. He said that was a big advantage because then he could let it rip and know what his parameters were and what he could get away with. LT was very complimentary of Gholston (despite Mike throwing as much cold water on him as he could) and LT claims he will be a very good player. Of course, like someone else points out, if LT is on Gholston's payroll, of course he's going to be complimentary. But it did sound sincere... that LT does think that Gholston will come around and excel, once he knows everyone around him and gets used to the system. In Gholston's defense, it really has been a transitional period for the Jets too... bringing in Jenkins and Pace, etc., so maybe that has had something to do with Gholston's development. If those other guys were still learning their relative positions and getting their timing down, how was Gholston supposed to be able to set his own parameters if he wasn't sure exactly where the other guys would be. Just a thought...
Not having the patience or time to look over my work and use you're instead of your, doesn't change the fact that your statement didnt make sense. No if your a bad athlete doing 3 line wont make you a hall of famer. But with that being said taking a couple of bumps during the game is sure to pump you up. Imagine taking a shot of adrenaline during the game. Its a similar reaction like taking 3 energy drinks or 3 cups of coffee. Im sure it would get your motor going. NOT THE OPPOSITE REACTION AND HINDER YOUR ABILITIES.... like you said earlier
Nah. Gholston is a B-U-S-T if I ever seen one. 1. Mangini can't coach him. 2. He can't play. 3. He's fat. 4. He's slow. 5. He doesn't know how to tackle. 6. He doesn't know how to do anything on a football field. No chance. He's just not cut out for this shit.
you know i cant stand the giants but why everytime that lt is brought up does someone have to talk about cocaine? is that all you can say negatively about the greatest defensive player this game has ever seen? and i truely do believe that, he was absolutely amazing. i guess people just cant not say something negative although i guess im that way with certain people too (herm)
OK, he's been extremely disapointing to say the least. But we really should wait at least another season or two before calling him a legit bust.
While being all yay'd out on the field would give you a surge of adrenaline at times you'd have a way higher risk of blowing an assignment or fuckin up somewhere. And coming down out there would be hell.
Demarcus has been one of the best players in football for the past two years, this guy is a serious candidate for Defensive player of the year and I think it was pretty obvious from the very begining that he was going to be great. The kid was a force the first time he put pads on at the pro level, and LT thought he was garbage? Thought Ware had no potential, and he's openly admitting that? I think Taylor is the single most dominant Defensive player to ever grace the field, but I'm not sure the guy doesn't spend 12 hours a day playing Blitz and snortin coke. He obviously needs to watch a football game sometime.
The thing I took away from the interview regarding Gholston is that LT sees great things in this kid's physique and abilities. He's got all the hardware. LT thinks that he'll be able to bring Gholston around in his own fashion by tutoring him and he seemed fairly confident of this. He mostly feels that Gholston needs to really know the surrounding talent and feel comfortable with it, then be able to go out and raise hell the way LT used to do and let it rip. Right now, our pass rush sucks. So we'd better be doing something pretty quick, IMO. It's like the Jewish Rabbi who stumbles across the dead man on the sidewalk. "Give him chicken soup," the Rabbi exclaims. "But he's dead," someone yells out, to which the Rabbi says, "But it can't hurt."
Well gee there, rainbow, I sure hope I didn't hurt your feelings. Maybe you should edit your work if you're deciding to go ad-hominem. And I'm willing to bet it's hard to think cogently, read your defensive keys, understand blocking schemes, time a snap count, and out-think your opponents techniques when you can't stop your mind from racing. Sure, cocaine could pump you up, but if you aren't feeling that already you probably shouldn't be on the field. And regardless, just being enthusiastic does not make you a better athlete or football player.
Good explanations on your last two posts...I don't doubt that the learning curve is enormously steep. Having some of the d's leaders learning the system this year could definitely be a factor in hindering VG's development. He can't look over at Pace in the huddle and have him be like, "this is what's going down" because Pace is still figuring it all out too. It definitely won't be until the end of the 2010 season when we can make a proper assessment of VG's long term prospects at 3-4 OLB. And I hope that's all it is. As for the Jewish Rabbi, is there any other kind?
Doing it on the sidelines during the break before the 4th quarter would probably be best. The high would last for 30-45 minutes, so you'd be extra amped during the most important time of the game. Hollywood Henderson did coke during Super Bowl 13, but I don't recall at what exact point in the game.
Cocaine can make you up-tempo and chipper, but the ability to play and understand the game have to be there already. No drug is going to add that.
Maybe Lawrence can mentor him into how not to get set up (like a mother f*cker) into buying crack cocaine when someone says something like: “Hey Lawrence – do you want to buy some crack?”
oh the irony. And genius, nobody is claiming that cocaine turns the average Joe into a HOF LB, but it would certainly enhance a player who has HOF talent to begin with. Cocaine has only been proven to provide short term bursts of energy. gee, I wonder if that would help a strong, athletic guy like LT who already possessed immense football talent?
^ It’s true – once while completely high on cocaine I aced two college finals in a single day, drank a 12 pack to celebrate, did some more cocaine to celebrate, went to a club, hooked up with a chick, beat up three dudes, drank another 12 pack, got the chick back to my apartment and banged the hell out of her for two hours. If not on cocaine – I’m quite sure I would have never have aced those finals.
Highly regarded scholar (departing from the term "genius")if you're going to step into a conversation and try to pick up where one person left off, you might want to at least read everything that was said. As I posted earlier... And I'm willing to bet it's hard to think cogently, read your defensive keys, understand blocking schemes, time a snap count, and out-think your opponents techniques when you can't stop your mind from racing. Sure, cocaine could pump you up, but if you aren't feeling that already you probably shouldn't be on the field. And regardless, just being enthusiastic does not make you a better athlete or football player. Thinking the way that you are minimizes the mental aspect of football; even the best athlete you can find is going to fail if they don't understand how to play the game well. Cocaine is not going to help at all with the mental aspect of the game. In fact, as I said earlier, it is probably going to make linear thinking a novel concept that completely eludes you until you come down. My qualm is not with people saying LT had no talent and was just the benefactor of being coke. No one is saying that and if I'm going to attack fake arguments I like to at least make them more interesting. No, my issue is with people saying that he benefitted from the use of cocaine at all. Any benefits you might get from having your adrenaline go through the roof are probably more than made up for in the lack of ability to think clearly. I don't know if you're aware of this, but LT's career could have actually been better if he had not snorted coke and worked out more. There are numerous stories of him using his enormous contract money to buy his way out of weightroom sessions. I don't really know why you're chiming in now, but I'll clarify this for whoever wants to read it: I think cocaine hurt LT's career more than it helped it. If you disagree, that's fine. I've made my reasoning pretty clear, I think. Judge that for yourself.
