Lon Chaney's Mock

I would be happy if that was our draft. I like the punter selection. I can't take another year of watching Conley shank punts. With all the 6th and 7th compensation picks this is the time to get a new punter.

 

I know a lot of people may disagree with me, Nick Perry is a reach at 16, much better talent will be available. Too many Jet fans have a "must pass rusher" in Rd 1 and reaching for Perry isn't smart. Perry's value, at best, is late Rd 1.

IMO, TRU Johnson won't last till Rd 3 #77. I might flip Johnson and Quick.

I really like most of your players.

 

The problem with Nick Perry is that he's likely to be a pass rush specialist. He's small for a 3-4 LB and is going to have issues dealing with big tackles and pulling guards in the run game. He's also no lock to be able to manage the transition to OLB with the coverage responsibilities that come along with the job.

Andre Branch is a much better prospect in the right range (mid to late 20's).

 

I think a lot of fans would be very happy with this outcome... although I agree with WW that we could probably do a little better at 16.

I would really like to see us pick up multiple WRs in this draft, and Quick seems like a solid prospect. Johnson would be a great pickup if he's still there in round 3, could possibly play FS right away. Bryan has been a fan favorite for a while now; we'll definitely pick up a blocking TE, I hope it's him. I really hope we draft a punter... with all of those comp picks we should be able to grab a good one. I think we're all getting tired of dumpster diving and having punters who can't perform consistently. That really screws up our field position and inevitably puts more pressure on our offense.

 

I like the picks after the 4th far better than the ones before it

 

Disagree on all accounts.

Perry has a much better body for playing the position than Branch does. While Branch has an inch in height and reach, Perry has a tremendous power advantage. He's a rock, and has shown himself to be elite when it comes to pressuring by going through linemen. He has the kind of powerful punch that knocks linemen off track, and coming from the LB position he'll be a dangerous man. Add that in with his leg strength and power will not be an issue. He's like a more athletic Tamba Hali, equally dangerous via strength and his ability to rush from a variety of positions. His versatility in that regard will open the door to the types of unorthodox blitzes that Rex runs.

Branch is a longer, leaner athlete that is almost useless when it comes to the strength side of things. He's afraid to lock up with linemen, can't anchor because he'd rather drop off the line and chase then set the edge, and would run around tackles if given the chance most of the time.

Will Perry be solid in coverage? I don't see why not, he showed an ability to cover flat and hook zones while at SC in Kiffin's defense, so there's no reason to believe he can't handle it. In addition I'd much prefer to have someone with a motor like Perry vs. an underachiever like Branch.

 

Disagree. The value that is available is wasted at less than premier positions.

 

#77 Trumaine Johnson CB Montana



HAHA That's a fucking classic photo.

 

I'll never convince you, you're overrating Perry.

IMO, Perry is going to be better as a 4-3 end.

Let's see where Perry is drafted on April 26th...or even maybe April 27th (Rd 2).

 

I do like the players in this mock, but not the value at which pick theyre taken at.

Brian Quick IMO is a 3rd round if not lower, not insulting him as a player but theyre just more NFL ready WRs out there that will be in the second.

Like I have said all over this draft forum, I love Trumaine Johnson, if we drafted him I would be beyond ecstatic. Right now he's a late 2nd rounder IMO so drafting him at that 2nd pick instead of that 3rd is probably the much easier way to go.

George Bryan is growing on me, I think he can be a solid pro, I just dont love him at 187. I'd rather look at a higher potential RT or Guard to groom instead of a #2 TE.

Burfict and Robinson are always great picks. I think we'd most likely have to cut Patrick Turner to keep Robinson on the roster but it is certainly worth the risk. Now my question for you is why pick Carder if youre targeting Burfict in the later rounds? Value? High risk/High reward? I think if we're going to take an ILB we need to commit to one or the other. Burfict can be a starter in this league when motivated, do you think maybe it would be a better idea if you went with another need than two ILBs?

Ive gained more and more interest in getting a punter in this draft, especially with the comments coming from Westhoff. Powell is a favorite of mine, he was always very solid at FSU and many scouts like him more than any other special teamer. He may go higher than 242.

Overall a very solid job with this draft, a lot of these kids should be looked at by the Jets come draft day, and hopefully a majority are drafted here.

 

I'm not sure about actual value, but this draft seems to aim to fix the Jets needs. Thanks for clarifying the CB would turn to S. At first I was wondering why in the world draft a corner with the third pick. Also love the picture of the punter.

 

I'd happily be convinced but no one has given me an argument otherwise. There are certain things that 34 OLBs need to be successful, and he has everything. He's a great athlete, relentless in pursuit, and has covered zones in Kiffin's defense before. I get that other people don't value him that highly, but I'm just saying that everyone needs to open their eyes. He's a better 34 OLB fit than anybody else in this draft.

Love Perry, as I've said.

I like Quick in Rd 2, people sleep on him because of App State, but he is a smooth athlete that could go a lot higher than people give him credit for. Hard to not love that size/athleticism combo. And yes, he's better than Criner.

Tank Carder has a lot of Sean Lee to me, slightly undersized for a 34 ILB spot but a relentless player that can overcome.

 

3-4 OLB needs to be able to set the edge. He's small for that and small in general to be playing outside in a 3-4.

6' 3" 250 lbs is tiny these days when the pulling guards are all 6' 5" 310 lbs+ and the tackles are in the 6' 5" 320 range. There's a reason that the outside linebackers in 3-4's have evolved up to 265 lbs over the last half decade. It's tough out there.

 

Thanks for posting - interesting read. I would like to have a go at a mock but after the 4th round I would just be throwing names out there tbh

 

He was 260+ when the season ended and is now 270, plus he's built like Terrell Suggs. Height is the last thing that these guys need (provided they're not tiny), because skilled players will not get engulfed by OL (and again, Andre Branch is 6'4 250, tell me how that one inch of height is going to make him good and Perry bad). It's all about what skills the players possess. Perry has great hands to fight off blockers and keep the outside arm free, superior strength to bench off tackles and keep his body away from the blocker, and a great power base that allows him to meet and stop blockers.

I'm not sure then also what position you'd put Perry in if he's too small to play 34 OLB. DEs certainly have to be bigger considering they're lines up to battle with tackles every single play.

In addition, the pulling guard argument really isn't that concerning because there really aren't that many situations when Perry would come head on with one. They generally lead up inside on power runs, and if a guard is ever leading on an outside run the better play for the OLB would be to play the outside shoulder of the guard and contact him to force the play inside for the ILB (who should have read either the back or the guard depending on keys and be filling the hole).

 

The only thing that steers me clear of Nick Perry is that he has stated that he prefers to play DE in the 4-3.
The fact that he put on so much weight (listed in college at like 250-260 and then showed up at the combine weighing in at 271) leads me to believe he is serious about that preference.
Completely disagree w/those who say he is either too small or not strong enough. Like it was said previously, he's got Sugg's physique - also similar to Woodley of Pittsburgh. The guy also put up 36 reps on the BP so it shows me he's got plenty of upper body strength.