nope, rex didn't start shit. the NFL changed the rule to make it more advantageous to defer. Rex became HC at that same time. Folks here only pay attention to the Jets so they think he "started" it or something. its absurd.
Based on what actually went right last night I give the team credit for calling the coin toss correctly.
Always end up outsmarting ourselves.It goes back to the owners who will always lean toward the business saavy bean counter over legit football people who use common sense & logic.
The decision to go with Gase over McCarthy was mind boggling to say the least. Consider that McCarty wanted to coach the Jets and he ONLY wanted to coach the Jets. He is a career .618 coach and a SB winner. Has a great track record with QBs like Favre and Rodgers even though Rodgers threw him under the bus in the end. Rodgers may not be the best of guys. Gase was a .479 coach in Miami, went to war with every star player and had them traded and quite honestly wouldn't have a job if it wasn't for Peyton campaigning for him. No idea how you tell McCarthy to get lost and hire a bum, so I agree with your assessment that it probably had to do with money.
Belicheck never takes the ball and hasn't since the rule change. The Pats are famous for scoring late in the half and getting the ball to start the 3rd quarter.
rex started it 10 years ago. bellichick coached as a HC 91-95 (rules were different though) and 2000 to present. rex coached 2009 and deferred every time. Nobody prior to 2008 deferred because it would cost you a posession. so for bill's first 13 years coaching it wasn't an option and he always took the ball to start. rule change is listed here http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d809f6279/article/new-nfl-rules-for-2008 so it only goes for 2008 and newer anyone would defer. no coaches did in 2008 including bill billichick. rex ryan started doing it in 2009 and by 2010 billichick was doing it and a few other coaches. now it's kind of split 50/50 in the NFL.
not true. people's memory is clearly fuzzy since it was 11 years ago the rule changes and billichick has been doing it for 8-9 of those years. rex did it day 1 the year after the rule change, no other coach was doing ti back then, not consistently.
BB deferring was a Jedi mind trick to make opposing coaches who won the toss defer. It worked to perfection last night.
here i found some articles. in 2008 the rule change year, bill won 4 coin tosses and deferred 3 and took the ball 1 https://www.si.com/2016/01/14/nfl-coin-toss-deferral-patriots-bill-belichick (75%) in 2009 and every season as a HC rex deferred 100 % of the time. he's the only coach to do that at that time in 2008 the league average was 38% defer, by 2016 it was 80% defer https://www.sbnation.com/2017/2/3/1...i-patriots-defer-heads-falcons-bill-belichick We all know bellichick never follows suit and always strategize down to the most minute detail in any game. he doesn't defer to defer, he gameplans it out based on the game and will take the ball still. it's just rare. rex did it 100% of the time.
Back to the topic, I think the plan was to stuff NE first drive and than hope two for one possession. Its not a bad plan if you can do it. Which brings up a more important point. We all love Greg Williams but last night was the first screw he's made with the Jets. What made him think we could stop Brady without numerous blitzes? He had basically the same gameplan against Cleveland and it worked. But everybody knows it never works against Brady unless you have top flight corners.
I think it was to prevent the Pats of tilting the game towards their favor incase it was a close game in the second quarter.
Anyone (well maybe not Zac Taylor) would have been better than Gase. But the Packers are doing very well without McCarthy. I don't think McCarthy was the answer.
I wanna see the stats! What percentage of games are won by the team that wins the coin toss? Does receiving or kicking make a difference? How is that affected by a team that prefers to select which end zone to defend? Gimme the numbers!
The vast majority of teams, even in high school ball, deferr to take the second half kick, if you can not realize why, there is little hope for you as a logical football mind. You don’t change the strategy because of your opponent on this, in fact it’s a better advantage based on the strength of your opponent to control that end of the clock. ... that said it’s on a alternate reality where the jets are remotely in the same talent range as the pats which we are not. Taking the kick first or second did not matter, less talent overall and worse coaching ( as much as I hated the hire Gase has been ok, but our roster is trash) is a loss ... hell I started the pats D in fantasy this week .... The fucking worst thing about you as a poster (dude if your trolling your a genius) is you seem to pick up on the one thing that didn’t. really matter and make a thread on it and act like it’s an obvious mistake. Any remotely logical person is like AYFKM ... but you just continue on like “the choice or kick is why we lost” ... we lost this game three fuxking drafts ago when our online was shit and we ignore it. It got worse as we continued to ignore it in successive drafts to the point where Jets fans believe that Edoga’s sub par play is such an improvement that we will end up as an example of gaslighting in the next DSM
This pretty much sums it up. If the Jets make a tackle on one of 4 first downs specifically the Edelman 3rd and 10 at midfield, Gase is a genius for kicking off. Everyone defers. Silly thread.
