Let's discuss Stacy Andrews

I think they should as well.

 

Me too. If he only gave up one sack this whole year, AND is a big run blocking RT, that is exactly the kind of guy we need in here. I just hope that he isn't one of these contract year players who's going to look lost if we sign him...

 

I will use Kareem as a reference again. He didnt seem lost going to the Giants so I dont think Stacy would either.

 

He was drafted in the 4th round. He didn't play a down of football until his senior year of college.

 

Whoops!!! For some reason I thought he was a late 1st rounder. hmy::breakdance:

 

"he's young, and he's a mauler."

That's it, that is the criteria our front office should be checking these OL types against.
period.

 

The only problem with Stacy Andrews is that Cincy is 31.5M under the cap. They should be able to re-sign him if he wants to stay. If he shops himself, it will come down to who wants to dig the deepest into their pockets.

 

The Bengals are pretty stacked at Tackle as it is w/ Levi Jones, Willie Anderson and Andrew Wadsworth. I doubt they're gonna want another big contract at that position

 

That's a good point, but they have a lot of guys to think about signing. I wouldn't be too surprised to see them sign Andrews to a deal and cut Willie Anderson.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/s/co...ro/bengals/2007/12/29/ddn123007benfuture.html

 

I firmly believe that the most cost-effective way to participate in Free Agency is to find proven performers who have the capacity to deliver high performance levels during the course of the contract. Offensive Linemen have shown both statistically and historically proven this point (see Kevin Mawae and Steve Hutchinson).

As such, I think that a player like Stacey Andrews is well worth the risk of a serious attempt to be sign. Likewise Alan Faneca (probably even more so) if the situation can be made attractive for him.

Add these two players via Free Agency and draft Gholston in the First Round, focus the draft more on defensive play-makers plus a weaker schedule for the 2008 season and watch-out! The AFC title game may not be so out-of-reach.

 

I'm not entirely against Faneca, because I understand the intangible value he'd have, but...

It's USUALLY the case that when the Steelers decide someone is no longer worth it, they go somewhere and prove the Steelers right. You have to wonder if Faneca is really still worth the money or if he's just looking for the payday. We're really going to have to be careful on this one.

-X-

 

I don't follow college ball that well but I got to see a bit of Cherilus yesterday on the NFL network while he was practicing for the Senior Bowl. He def'n fits the mold of the type of player we need to reinvigorate our Oline, but if he has a great senior bowl week he'll be gone early in day 1.

And to think, if we keep Randy Thomas and Kareem around we would be in GREAT shape right now. And to make matters worse these UFA's that we covet are probably on every other team that needs help in the OL right now....it's going to cost top $$$ and the money we thought people were throwing around at the Oline last year will only increase a bit as FA rolls around this year.

With our history on bidding top dollar for players I'm not left feeling really good about completely addressing both spots before the draft....but we have to get a veteran in one of these spots . . .

 

This is simplistic and ridiculous. Randy Thomas was paid like one of the top guards in the game by Daniel Snyder. He was certainly not, and he never became the Pro Bowl caliber they said he would be for years. They attempted to prevent McKenzie from keeping the market and he rebuffed their overtures. Moreover, we still had cap prohibitive contracts on the books that would have made it a stretch to re-sign both of those guys, or either of them, and we'd probably be a lot thinner at other positions as a result.

-X-

 

Simplistic AND ridiculous, wow, double whammy. I won't pretend to be a capologist, but what are these other positions that we could have been thin at as a result? Basically all of our decent guys were home grown product, we never really got any good FA's. I can see your argument better if by giving up those 2 guys we were able to bring in X or Y guy who ended up being a consistent contributors to our team....but I just can't think of any FA's we've brought in and become difference makers.

As for being close to being in cap hell, if we couldn't resign them well them we didn't have much off a choice but to let them go to the highest bidder, but I was under the impression that Bradway was the type of GM who just really didn't believe in investing in Olineman like other teams were...and that he could find replacements in the draft to address his needs. It may be simplistic, but if I could choose I would take Thomas or Kareem over who we had out there this past season.

 

Whats the point of being so far under the cap if we are not gong to spend. The line between being prudent and being dumb is very blurred for the Jets right now

 

your right about that mang......i mean, look at joey porter. what did kellen winslow say about him??? something along the lines of "he hasn't tackled anybody in 8 years" ROFLLLLLLLLL