2768 yards rushing and 5.3 yards per carry. Eat it Junc. You will never see a team win a Super Bowl with numbers like that again. If you don't understand by now that Peyton Manning was the best QB of the last generation I can't help you with that. That's just a fundamental learning disability on your part.
Well I said player, but overall the worst person on the field was John Fox. Adam Gase deserves blame to, the offensive plan was horrible, he made zero ajustments, continued to pass the ball. Denver had 14 total rushes all game. I understand that the passing game got the Broncos there but where were the runs? where were the screens? Why did they continue to pass when it became apparent early that the Seattle 7 were covering em? Run the ball, get the Linbackers to respect your run so that the receivers can get freed up a little bit.
before the game started I changed my opinion or who would win, simply because I was wrong in making it a Manning vs Wilson issue. the game was going to be won and lost by the coaches, and I thought Carroll is a superior coach to Fox. I thought it would be close in the 1st half and Carroll would make the adjustments and dominate in the second. The Seahawks were at another speed than the Broncos from the get go because Pete Carroll had his team roaring. that was impressive. Fox is a good coach, but I'm not convinced he is great. Pete Carroll is a great coach.
Indy was a good team, they beat Seattle this year and NE thrashed them. they were lower scoring SBs and he wasn't throwing INTs for TDs and turning it over multiple times. In Manning's last 2 SBs he has as many TD passes to the other team as he does to his team. Brady wasn't a difference maker vs. SL leading one of the greatest SB drives of all time preventing the biggest choke in SB history? in 4 of 5 SBs Brady's Ds have blown a late lead, 2 of the 4 he rescued the D as he had enough time, the other 2 he didn't have enough time.
The 49ers ran the ball 28 times (Kaepernick had a bunch), the Saints ran the ball 26 times. Both teams passing wise were equally inept as the Broncos were in the first half. If I recall Brees had 34 yards at halftime and Kaepernick had 18. When the game was 15-0 the Broncos HAD TO change it up, they didnt. Im not sure what was said at halftime but if they had plans to run the ball it was shattered when Harvin had the return. But they should have changed the game plan when it was 15-0 or even 22-0.
Manning was bad, but his offensive line was getting beat by just the front four, and his receivers couldn't get any separation. the entire offensive team was beaten in all facets. the first two Bronco pass plays were 4-5 yard catches that they usually get another 4-5 yards after the catch. both times the receivers got rocked right after the catch. they never had a chance. they had no defense to benchmark against the Seahawks in what they were going to face, and had no way to respond to that speed and physicality.
You can pretend like that means something but we all know it means nothing especially w/ Sanders out most of the year. Brady is the best of his generation by a wide margin but keep pretending peyton is great despite playing w/ more talent and having an under .500 postseason record.
if the Pats D doesn't hold down the Rams that drive doesn't exist. nobody is saying that Brady didn't win the game, but his overall performance was losing caliber made possible by the defense. Brady only left the field with leads against the Giants because his defense kept it close. The Giants had Super Bowl losing caliber performances and won the game because Brady played poorly for 50 minutes. Brady may not have thrown turnovers, but incompletions also lose games. and you don't get to use the Brady was winning when he left the field and criticize Manning for the Ravens game that his defense blew.
The Pats D held down SL for 3 qtrs. then blew an historic 4th qtr lead only to be rescued by Brady and the O. some games are 32-29(like the Car SB), some are low scoring, they played in mostly low scoring ones and he made plays to win in all. The D blew 2 of them or if Welker makes a catch vs. NYG 2 years ago they win that one. Speaking of Welker- at least when he had Brady he had chances to win SBs:lol: Manning vs. Baltimore had 3 TOs lead directly to 17 pts, show me where that happened w/ Brady? manning vs. bal got 14 STs pts, show me where that happened w/ Brady.
Brady was rescued by the Pats defense playing great for three quarters. otherwise he is losing that game with his performance. you can't deny that he benefited by a great defensive performance. there are different ways to lose games. Manning does it by throwing INT's. Brady does it simply by throwing incompletions and not scoring points. or are you claiming the only indicator of a QB playing poorly is how many INT's he throws?
You're right. Brady wasn't even close to good enough to get the chance to be embarrassed by Seattle. What good D has Brady ever beaten in the playoffs? Anytime he's faced a solid D, he's been awful, like consistently awful. Stop giving Brady qualities he doesn't have. You're a Jets fan, geez...
Brady's been bad agaisnt those Ravens defense's correct. Seattle's defense was historically good this season- them beating down Peyton wasnt all that surprising. I dont think Brady would have fared much better....maybe slightly, but I doubt it. We've seen him with the deer in headlights look too. That Seattle team was better than any team the Pats have faced in the Super Bowl.
Francesa claiming when it was 22-0, Welker was completely alone down the field, Manning NEVER saw him.
If you want to use post season success as an indicator of elite QBs, then Sanchez has to be one of the best of all time with the #6 post season QB rating in NFL history and a 4-2 record. Nobody cares that the Patriots lucked into an extra 4-5 wins this year with no weapons. It wasn't just Brady, it was teams falling apart in the clutch and laying down for them. Tom Brady wasn't even top 5 this year in any category. The guy is good, but he's been a mediocre QB in the post season since 2008, and this year he wasn't even top 15 in QB rating or completion percentage, and Peyton's older. Peyton Manning career: (15 years starting) Yards per season: 4331 CMP%: 65.5 TD: 491 TD per season: 32.7 INT: 219 ratio: 2.2/1 RAT: 97.2 Tom Brady career: (12 years starting) Yards per season: 4095 cmp%: 63.4 TD: 359 TD per season: 30 INT: 134 ratio: 2.6/1 RAT: 95.7 Brady has a slightly better TD to Pick ratio, but Manning has outperformed him in every other category. Peyton holds way more records than Brady, including breaking his single season TD record and Drew Brees' single season yards record. And BRADY DID have very good weapons during the 3 superbowl wins as well as the last few years (not including 2013) Gronk, Hernandez and Welker. He also had a much better defense than the Broncos during the SB years as well.
The best Ds Brady played in the postseason were probably 2009 Ravens and 2010 Jets. How did Brady perform in those games? It's amazing the way people give Brady this mystique, like he has some magical ability to beat great Ds in the playoffs. He just doesn't. When his team played great early in his career and Brady managed the games, he won a lot of playoff games. He never faced a great D though. When he ran into stronger Ds later in his career and his team around him wasn't as strong (particularly his D), he had terrible performances. The myth of Brady is silly, he's an all-time great. But he would have been terrible in yesterday's game, hell, he was poor against a mediocre Broncos D two weeks ago. Look at how easily Wilson toyed with the Broncos D. Brady couldn't do anything like that but we're supposed to believe Brady beats the Seahawks D? LOL right. And I have bridge to sell the OP
Saying Wilson was a "game manager" yesterday is somewhat insulting. Marshawn Lynch did nothing. The Seahawks o-line was flagged about 7 or 8 times. Despite that, Wilson carried their offense and they only punted on one meaningful possession the entire game. He was a very dangerous playmaker yesterday.
Couldnt agree more. Brady is an all time great but the mystique is strange....as if he's super human and the Pats win the Super Bowl every season.
Wilson's first pass was his worst pass. After that he was pretty great, and was outstanding on 3rd downs.
That one drive sucked the life out of the Broncos, he converted 3 third downs in a row and really put confidence in himself and his team.
People forgot how much of a playmaker the kid is because he had a run of so-so games that was mostly the result of playing many really tough Ds in a row. If your front 7 doesn't have the speed to contain or catch Wilson, he is a nightmare to play. Every play is alive and every play could be something big down the field once he breaks the pocket. Denver's secondary was a bit overmatched against the Seahawks WRs too.
