Leonard Williams looks fat to me

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  1. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    How is it a horrendous comparison? I literally used the same exact stat you cited in your Mehta tweet
     
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    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    You used it to argue against yourself and you didn't even know it. Again, you keep pretending like I can't handle differing opinions and that's just not true. I can't handle uninformed opinions. You tried to make a comparison between Snacks and Leo using stats and then making a statement on their contract. Using the FACTS, that comparison is horrendous. All you did was prove how much worse Snacks is/was than Leo in his Jets tenure and how overpaid he is as a two-down player (which Leo is not, another reason the comparison was bad).

    But let me guess, I just can't handle differing opinions right?
     
  3. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    That doesn’t make any sense
     
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    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    How does this not make sense to you? This is pretty cut and dry.

    1. You compared Snacks and Leo based off stats.
    2. Their stats are not even close.
    3. Then you compared their salaries.
    4. One of them is a two-down player who only stops the run, the other is a three-down player who produces in all facets.
    5. In conclusion, the comparison was horrendous in almost every way.
     
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  5. Sam Hammer

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    But But But sacks!!!! All that matters from the dline is sacks all other stats mean nothing, everybody is supposed to sack the QB every play or they are fat and lazy. I mean who cares about stopping the run LOL!

    I can't believe this abortion of a thread is still going.
     
  6. Sam Hammer

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    Harrison is also 5 years older than Leo and nearing the end of his career. His is also 2 down DT, Leo plays all over the line and plays all 3 downs.

    Plus don't forget in the first year of his deal he made $13m.
     
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  7. LF911SC

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    Link to 2? He was playing 2 downs at most with the Giants, how? Seriously, sounds nice but not seeing how it's true.

    You know what's funny? People kill Leo for being a run stuffer then praise Snack who is the posterboy of a one trick pony. He only stuffs the run, every other part of his game he can't compare to Leo. Not close. But he's the man. Lol

    He went to the Giants on the type of contract your hype should have netted him. Wound up peeing pulled often. Won nothing and was dumped.
     
  8. LF911SC

    LF911SC Well-Known Member

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    Unless we're talking about Snacks. Then stuffing the run I said vital to a defense
     
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    Except Manish cited stats.

    You haven't proven anything yet. Link?

    And here isn't a GM in the league that would take Snacks over Leo.

    No one would.

    Then again, no one, anywhere believes he's fat.
     
  10. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Snacks did actually lead the league in run stops for interior lineman for the last four years, but the problem is the comparison is pure dog shit. He chose one stat that Manish posted, compared it to Snacks, ignored the rest and didn't even consider how each of them play against the pass.

    And to answer the question about how much each of them are on the field... Leo played 866 in 16 games (54 per game), Harrison played 606 in 17 games (35 per game). Basically, not even close but most people with a brain knew it was a terrible comparison and this didn't have to be pointed out to most.
     
  11. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    "Damon Harrison led all NFL DTs in run stops once again"
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...ll-nfl-dts-in-run-stops-once-again/ar-BBRHQ2C


    2015 1st
    2016 1st
    2017 1st
    2018 1st
    2019 1st

    If this ever becomes an award, it should get named after Harrison.
     
  12. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    sorry for the large font. I just pasted from the link and it showed up like that

    ditching Harrison to resign Wilkerson for $17 million a year was a colossal mistake by McCagnan, one of the reasons he's fired. I wish we could have that back
     
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    we were sold a bill of goods
     
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  14. LF911SC

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    Agreed. Wasn't sure of the stat, it's why I asked him. But you're right. He can't hold his jock other than run stuffing.

    His complaint being that's all Leo does and he's wrong,

    As usual
     
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    Still comparing a one trick pony to a more complete player?

    Want to bet Leo would bring back more than a Lions 5th?

    Or that the Lions would trade Snacks for Leo in a nano second?
     
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    Mo was coming off of 10.5, 6 (13 games) and 12 sack seasons. A pro bowl player.

    Mo until he was paid and dogged it was the much better, more disruptive player.
     
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    heck, give them both to robbie!
     
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  18. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    I was simply providing the facts that you said I was lying about for some reason
     
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    LF911SC Well-Known Member

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    Find the post were I called you out as a liar. I clearly said I didn't think he played enough to rank and asked for a link.

    You on the other hand keep ignoring what everyone knows, Leo Williams is a better player.

    Now back to where I called you a liar. Copy and paste it or just stfu and stop arguing and stirring shit over something that wasn't written or even hinted. Tool
     
  20. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Ok, you didn't call me a liar. I apologize

    I never said Leonard Williams isn't better. I cited the stats of both players and shared their contract information, for context.

    Williams will make double what Harrison will make this season - he better be better
     

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