I get the impression here that the FO Homers think every single player who has been signed so far by other teams is being overpaid. Heh. That's pretty funny.
Or that everything is black or white. If you spend on FAs you will forever be in cap hell and if you build through the draft instead you will win 5 superbowls in a row.
Rex sat on Allen at the end of the year to let Ed Reed play. I'm guessing Idzik doesn't make that kind of mistake again.
but not as funny as those that see the failure to sign DRC as a clear sign that the FO is clueless and the Jets are going to hell
Don't forget, the new CBA allows for cap rollover. Some of the money we save can be carried over to next year. This is going to help us re-sign guys like Wilkerson. Build through the draft and don't overpay in free agency.
Based on a rumored 150M cap next year we already have 67M in cap space at the beginning of 2015 with no dead money to carry. Money is not the issue.
Idzik definitely does not want this to happen again. This off-season should open Rex's eyes a little bit. See how it feels to have your toys taken away? Look at what happened to the offense over the years.
Good point but Ed Reed situation was corrected and he's gone. So far what I'm reading from Jet fans is every GM who signed these FA's are idiots and Idzik (the new kid on the block) is a genius. I think he is learning on the job on how to be a gm. This doesn't bode well for many of the fans. I was looking for some kind of medium. Idzik might as well stick to his guns as a bad signing now will make him ripe for slaughter by the hated NY media. In reading out of town newspapers the general feeling is he is in way over his head. I tend to agree.
You claim to be unconcerned, and yet you engage in pure speculation about how the Jets will go about filling some holes. Seasoning as you call it does not guarantee that a mediocre player will ever become adequate. It is crystal clear that the draft will not fill all the holes on the team. The Jets are sitting on a huge amount of cap space, with many holes to fill. It is not being unreasonable to wonder whther the GM, who has no real track record in this sort of thing, is going to have even a mediocre, let alone successful, off season. Given the situation, if you are unconcerned you are not paying attention. Either that or address concerns with assurances that are really based on nothing. Can the Jets still salvage this off season? No doubt there have been some positive moves. I like the Decker signing, and the Pace move, while not major, made sense. I guess Cumberland was also a good move, although he's not really a top TE by any means, and likely never will be, on a team that needs better receivers. Relying on Walls to solve the Cb issue is really a stretch. Yes, it is possible he can improve, but relying on him to start is just too much homerism for me to get on board with that. Cb is critical since either the Jets are adequate at that position, or their run D will go to naught as teams merely pass over it. The risk of that exposure in turn makes many here nervous because it makes it instead more likely that the Jets go Cb with their top draft pick. For a team starving for offensive talent, that is just going to be too much to accept. Worst of all it will make an assessment of Smith more problematic. Btw, when i say Idzik has no real track record, of course he has last off season. When i say real i mean clear, since I don't think it clear his record from last off season was better than average, and arguably worse. Who can forget the signing of Garrard as an "answer" to the dilemna of starting either a has been like Sanchez or a rookie second rounder? That questionable signing of Goodson. Not even attempting to retain Revis (which concededly was Woody's doing, but still). In hindsight, the Colon signing also gets mediocre reviews. No real moves at wideout when the #1 receiver was coming back from injury, and eventually got hurt again. Yes, I know the Revis situation is one most disagree with me, and concededly the Ivory pickup was a good one. But really the best off season moves last off season were the cutting of Tebow, which was inevitable, changing out Sparano for Marty, which Idzik really had nothing to do with, and picking Richardson in the draft, which I understand was also not Idzik's move. I just don't understand what looks like unconcerned overconfidence in Idzik's supporters here.
Based on what we've heard the only thing I don't like so far in free agency from Idzik is (if it's true) is the Jets at the last minute counteroffering the Giants for DRC. One reason I question this report is if true and Idzik offered him more money than the Giants why didn't he accept it. He was in NJ to visit both teams and let's face it money was the main factor. Before that in other negotiations we'd been hearing that John was sticking to his evaluation and not trumping his bids for players. Some of the negative press is from reporters who are fans of Rex who probably has been leaking info to them about how frustrated he is not signing one of the top rated CBs. You know the decision on Revis is coming from the owner. If Revis's agent did call the Jets and said he wanted to return and the Jets blew them off that one's on Woody. Let's wait and see what happens in the next month. The best deals are later rather than sooner. The team needs depth and there are still plenty of guys available who are good players and won't break the bank. This is usually the smart way to proceed. Not burn all your bridges with overrated players who sometimes don't produce. So far to me he's doing a good job. DRC is good but remember he is one year away from being a member of one of the most underachieving teams of all time: The Phila Eagles "Dream Team."
He doesn't seem to know how to negotiate. Seems his first offer is a take it or leave it offer and so far everybody seems to leave it..mehta tweeted this awhile ago but because it's mehta who knows if there is any truth to it at all. Manish Mehta @MMehtaNYDN 7m Jets made 11th hour offer for DRC after an initial low-ball offer. However, it was too late by then. Giants had all but wrapped up deal #nyj
Talking about one signing is cherry picking, even if you prove to be correct. Which let's face it you really don't know the future. But do you think EVERY FA signing by other teams were cases of overpayment?
im really annoyed..any news on cro coming back..im annoyed also that our one free agent we signed we had him with us for like 14 hours and took him to dinner....
I don't know if I believe that report about the last minute offer by Idzik to DRC. Because if he went through the interview and physical with the Jets then why not entertain a counteroffer. Isn't that what it was all about. One team against the other for his services.
or....if the Jets did indeed want him and got to visit with him first and did not sign him then the FO is clueless and the Jets are going to hell. Certainly doesn't look like he was overpaid and he counts 2.5M against this years cap.
That maybe part of it, but I do not think Decker would come to NY just because his wife told him to We didn't let him leave the building pretty much - Colts, Jags were interested.
