Legitimate concerns about Idzik

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  1. chris5533

    chris5533 Well-Known Member

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    So besides idzik. Who's a gm you feel has done a good job during this off season?
     
  2. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    I never said all was lost,I never said we would be a horrible team either and I never wanted a high profile fa,I wanted some holes filled with some quality guys that we had more then enough money for,What I didn't want is Vick on a 1 year deal,colon one year deal,pace 1 year deal,1 year deals are building for future?
     
  3. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    Then why is he in the room?and not working for an NFl team still,he's breaking down free agency with Herm Edwards instead,who I also can't stand
     
  4. Royce Parker

    Royce Parker Well-Known Member

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    They made no efforts?? Please elaborate. I would love to hear your inside the organization take on exactly how all of these negotiations went down...
     
  5. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Because he's 71 years old and past his expiration date for a guy you want building your team. He'd be consulting for the Colts in a Senior Consultant role if they had a more stable ownership situation. That's what usually happens to the Hall of Fame FO guys after they semi-retire. Didn't happen with Polian because Irsay is Irsay. That's just what it is.

    I'm pretty sure Polian is happy at ESPN but he'd be happier behind the scenes at the Colts helping to build that next team.
     
  6. chris5533

    chris5533 Well-Known Member

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    What efforts have they made? What have the results been thus far? So, your saying there making quality efforts it's just not happening for them? Ok
     
  7. TonyMaC

    TonyMaC Well-Known Member

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    we didn't sign DRC and Howard! Idzik stuck to his guns! I see no future possibilities staring me in the face therefor they won't exist! he could have spent more to get them which means he should have, especially because nothing else will ever happen to improve that position (nope, only the guys on this rumor list will do) and now we have to brave the world of the unknown!!!!!

    Just because fans are insecure and willing to put everything into signing player X doesn't mean we need a GM who does the same.
     
  8. Royce Parker

    Royce Parker Well-Known Member

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    What I'm saying is that you have about as accurate an idea as I have as to how exactly this has all gone down behind the scenes. It's very possible that the Jets had a strong interest in a lot of FAs and for whatever reason decided that they didn't make sense for the team - there could be a multitude of reasons.

    Can you please site some evidence to your opinion that they've made no effort to sign anyone?
     
  9. chris5533

    chris5533 Well-Known Member

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    Of course no one truly knows what goes on. It's why we have opinions. In my opinion they haven't done a good job and the results thus far dictate. So who besides idzik is a gm in the nfl you feel is doing a quality job?
     
  10. Royce Parker

    Royce Parker Well-Known Member

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    So you're agreeing that nobody really knows what factors are going into their decisions to sign or not sign particular players yet you still feel compelled to take a hard stance that they aren't making any effort to sign anybody? You're just bullshitting. Period.
     
  11. chris5533

    chris5533 Well-Known Member

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    What are you talking about? Yes, no one truly knows what goes on.... There not one person on this board that does. Hence, the idea of opinions. I'm not looking for you to talk in circles and try to make some obscure point. I have as much insight as you do. So I guess your just bullshitting around also. No need to debate when were both bullshitting.
     
  12. Royce Parker

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    Excuse me but where was I bullshitting? I happen to like the fact that this organization is finally showing some restraint and not handing out big contracts to guys that might not live up to the hype.

    You seem to be ripping Idzik at every turn for not signing every big name FA that becomes available just because you're impatient and anxious to see some big flashy moves being made and all of our cap room being used ASAP. I think there's a big difference...
     
  13. chris5533

    chris5533 Well-Known Member

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    You can't point to one post where I said I want all the cap space spent or wanted flashy moves made. So I'm not sure where that comes from. So if I follow. The fact you like that the organization has done nothing, that's a valid opinion. The fact I dislike it. It's me bullshitting around? Got it....

    This is going no where.

    Ill ask simple questions.

    Are the jets rebuilding?
    Will rex Ryan be fired if the jets have a losing season?
    Does it make sense the owner came out and said, he doesn't want to hear about patience?
    What gm besides idzik do you feel is doing a good job?
     
  14. Big Blocker

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    I did not say Holmes turned out to be better, or even equal to, Decker now. Of course I don't think that. But Decker was not a big name this time last year, and despite some skepticism about what odds Holmes faced coming back from the lis franc injury, it was a common view that he would get back on the field and produce.

    Yes, there was some question about that, and he was not near 100% on Opening Day. But last year was really torpedoed by his newer injury.
     
  15. Going4TheGreen

    Going4TheGreen Well-Known Member

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    Cro goes for just over 3 million on a one year deal to Arizona. I hope Idzik at least offered him that and it was Cro's decision to decline. That's a great deal.
     
  16. I was just gonna turn the other cheek. But ya know what? I'm not gonna be bullied by some pathetic creep with too much time on his hands on a message board who wants to take shots at the little he knows about my personal life.

    As pitiful,ignorant & selfish as it is for you to even BEGIN to insult me & my dog..ESPECIALLY as it relates to a fucking football team...I won't back down. You can keep your bullshit coming from now till the end of Idzik's reign. I'll argue your idiotic stances for the rest of fucking time. And I've got nothing BUT time,buddy. No job, on dialysis,wife who works & nothing but a "fighting dog" to occupy my time. So try me. Garbage like you just brings out the best in me. I won't back down.

    You've given me another reason to be alllll over "Idzik's balls". It's to rub everything he does in your fucking retarded face. I hope he doesn't spend a DIME in free agency just to spite your arrogant short sighted ass. Cause that's what its all about.You're an armchair GM who thinks he knows more than a REAL Gm. And just b/c you are retarded & lack even the slightest bit of patience or foresight..you yell,scream & insult people. Pretty god damn pathetic & sad.

    But by all means...bring your most ignorant.Nothing would thrill me more than to occupy my time by owning your drooling SPED ass.
     
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  17. PolygamyWinsChampionships

    PolygamyWinsChampionships Well-Known Member

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    Awww, that's cute that you're going to dedicate your life to me. As flattering as it is though I wouldn't want you to take too much time away from your dog Vick, named after the $5M FA acquisition. Maybe you could get another one and name him DeSean, in honor of the $10M WR that you preached about wanting to TRADE draft picks for in this very thread.

    See, it's a little late to root for Idzik not to spend any money in FA, that train has already left the station. But when the last breath out of your mouth was about how you want him to do exactly that, and the breath before that was how brilliant it was to not sign anybody, it seems like you might want to get something else checked out.
     
  18. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    Do you children think you could discuss the GM situation without the infantile personal remarks?
     
  19. Ohh it sure is cute.Its downright adorable. Try me.. I wont back down

    Still on the dog name thing? It wasnt funny the first time & frankly it doesn't really bring much in terms of the insult dept. By all means carry on though..how bout we rename your goldfish "idzik" since you love him so much.

    Regardless of what idzik has or hasnt done..as long as you arent happy im good.
     
  20. i was perfectly content discussing the gm situation free of any personal insults. Frankly the debate was going nowhere anyway & i was done.

    He made it personal.

    Perhaps a reasonable , prudent & healthy person would just ignore him or not engage him.Without going into details of my situation i am not in any such position.All i have left is my good name.

    So if he wants to fling mud at a complete stranger im game.I am not gonna back down.no way no how

    If it poisons the original discussion at hand ..go ahead & ignore me.If the Mods want to take further action ill respect that too.

    I wont be bullied.
     

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