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  1. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    he would be a tropical,flesh eating fish from the amazon?
     
  2. DaBallhawk

    DaBallhawk Well-Known Member

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    What makes you think he wants to leave ATL? He's got a great gig there, safe job and future, his family is there, he's the highest paid ST coordinator in the league, he's got a great unit to work with, guys like Devin Hester, why the hell would he want to move to NY for a lateral move, not even a promotion, probably take less money to coordinate the worst ST unit in the entire NFL and then get fired again in 1-2 years if he can't turn it around? Because of his buddy? Please. He'd be stupid to. He's not a Jets fan, don't look at it through the eyes of a Jets fan. He has nothing to gain and everything to lose if he makes the move so I don't blame him.
     
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    so does the special team coaching suck or does the special teams players suck?
     
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    I suggest turning off auto correct early in the morning :)
     
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    In general, I agree, but the Falcons are just being jerks, keeping him there if he wants to leave and go work with Bowles. If he hadn't been doing a good job for them, they'd certainly have no problems with firing him. Would you want an employee working for you that didn't want to be there? Even if he doesn't intentionally try to screw them over, it could happen unconsciously in subtle ways. Morale could suffer and that has an impact on how we do our jobs. Think about jobs you might have had where they screwed you over and you weren't happy, but couldn't quit.
     
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    Maybe the rules changed, but teams used to be able to get around that rule by changing the title and adding Assistant HC or adding some additional responsibility to the job.
     
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  8. NCJetsfan

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    I don't know for certain that he does, but if one of your best friends got a managerial job in the same industry as yours and you had the opportunity to go and work with him, wouldn't you want to? Why is his job so safe in Atlanta? They probably won't, but if the Falcons continue to struggle for the next couple of years, Blank could fire the GM and HC, and maybe the new HC would want to bring in one of his friends to run STs. Hester has been a great player, but how old is he? He could retire during this offseason. There could be a lot of reasons why he wants to leave Atlanta and not just because he wants to work with his friend. He may not like Atlanta. He and Quinn may not see eye-to-eye on things. I also seriously doubt that he'd make less money if he came to the Jets. The Jets and Giants, and probably the Niners have to pay more than any other teams because they're cost of living (housing, food, etc.) is much more expensive than any other metropolitan area.

    You please. It's just your opinion that he'd be stupid to. You have no factual basis for making that statement. Do you really think that Bowles would fire his friend if he didn't get the STs turned around in a year or two? Seriously? Bowles knows the lack of talent on that unit. For all we know, he'd welcome the challenge of turning around the Jets STs. Maybe he thinks the Jets have a better shot of getting to and winning a SB with Bowles there, and with Brady nearing the end. Cam and the Panthers are a team on the rise. Maybe his wife and kids hate Atlanta. There could be a million reasons he might want to take the job with the Jets.
     
  9. JetLifeLo

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    Bowles should definitely try to lure his buddy to gang green. We all seen Westhoff make the most with nobody special on special teams.. in fact he made them special zz justin miller, joe mcknight, (leon was good regardless).. just saying coaching might matter just as much as the talent there.
     
  10. DaBallhawk

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    No. And I wouldn't know of a single living person with all things being considered would be stupid enough to do just that. You bring up all these things that aren't based on anything and you leave out the facts and reality. You do this a lot where you go from reality to wishful thinking and you don't stop arguing until something is scientifically proven right or wrong to you. Why is it so hard for you to believe that somebody like Armstrong who has been with the Falcons since the early 90s, who is one of the best and most respected ST coordinators in the league, who has a good bond with ownership, his family living there, kids in school, a safe gig overall and a good unit, why is that so hard for you to believe that he probably doesn't want to move to join a guy he played college ball with 30 years ago? Why would he do that? Just think about it once. And don't bring up this Temple thing, it's absurd. He's not gonna abandon his family or risk their future to hang around with his buddy who he played with football with. Give the man a reason, a real reason to move to New York. I don't need a million, give me some that are actually based on something and that would make him want to leave all that behind and move to NY. He needs a bunch of those. It's not a promotion. He's taking over arguably the worst ST unit in football, for years now. The guy hired last year already has been fired again. How stupid does somebody have to be to actually consider this job when everything is going well for him in another city where he's already settled and paid better than 90% of the coordinators in the league. Move why? Just stop it already. If he didn't have a job of course he'd consider it and probably do it. But to make it sound like the Falcons are keeping him hostage or that he wants out so bad and whatnot like this is such a great gig, that's just not even close to reality.
     
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    Utter BS. You have no facts, just your opinions and your limited, myopic view of reality which you're trying to present as facts and as the only intelligent choice, when it's obvious that you're the one who is stupid and has reading comprehension issues.

    I'm not "wishful thinking" either. I know little about Armstrong and don't care who Bowles hires. He wanted to talk to Armstrong and was refused permission. I'm sure that Bowles must have spoken with his friend first to see if there was any level of interest in his coming to the Jets as the STs Coordinator. If there wasn't, there would be no need to ask for permission to speak with him. Get over yourself. You don't know everything. Just because you're so dense you can't see another perspective, doesn't mean that it isn't valid, true or factual.

    It isn't hard for me to believe that Armstrong might be perfectly content in Atlanta. It also isn't hard for me to believe that he might like to work with his friend Bowles. You're the one who is having a hard time believing that he might like to work with Bowles and seeing any other side but your own. You have zero facts either way. You're the ridiculous one with your stupid extremes "abandoning his family or risking their future." ROFLMAO What a clueless jerk you are!

    I'm not making it sound like anything. Each time I've responded, I've said something like "If he wants to work with Bowles". I'm just speculating during a time when there's not much to discuss, which I'm entitled to do, and responding to your stupid BS posts where you act like you have the inside scoop and know everything. If you don't like it, tough shit, put me on ignore, because every single time you act like a know it all jerk, I'm gonna call you on it. Your ego needs taking down a few sizes, and I'm just the man to do it. You sound a lot like ray ray, one of the most arrogant prick Jets fans on the net.
     
  12. DaBallhawk

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    Keep up the name calling. All I did was give you straight facts. You can look them up again, I'm not going to bother with you any longer. All you do is make things up in this case, none of what you're saying is based on anything but you trying to make it look like you're on to something, trying to convince yourself. Maybe he wants a ring? No shit, who doesn't. Is that his first priority? Why has he been with the Falcons so long even during their worst periods if that's so important to him? Even if we do assume whatever you make up is true. Because Brady is about to be done, right. We've only been saying this for the last 5 years now, NOW he's really close, right. Keith's contract runs up THIS YEAR. I'm pretty sure Brady in a few months will be similar to the Brady we're seeing right now. So why the rush? Why would he rip up his contract, force his way out, sign a deal without testing what else is out there? How dumb do you think he is? Why wouldn't he just let his contract run up and then join ANYBODY he wants to at the end of this year? Let teams outbid each other, pick the safest spot long term, highest paid gig, the best gig overall. What is so hard to get about this? Why doesn't this make any sense to you? You're like those fans that get salty over players that ask for as much money as possible because it's their damn job. "Well If I were THAT guy, I'd be HAPPY to play for the Jets! Because I love the Jets! I'm a Fan! I wouldn't take a single dime! Jets For Life!". Well, good. Nobody is looking for you to play for the Jets. And nobody expects these college players all over the country to be born with a Jets tattoo on their chest and bleed green & white. Because guess what, 99% of the players drafted aren't fans of the teams they're playing for. It's a job. Just like whatever Armstrong is going through right now. His family and his future is priority, not hanging with his college buddy. I doubt Todd is going to pay for his kids college tuition if he gets fired and can't land another job 1-2 years from now.

    And stop acting too like I don't want this to be true or that I don't want Armstrong here or that I don't think at the end of the year when his contract is up he's gonna consider the Jets. We've tried to get him last year as well, this isn't exactly breaking news either. But he's got a contract, he has absolutely no reason to tear it up and force his way out right now. All it would do is lower his reputation around the league and kill all the leverage he'd have next year to get that best contract & best gig that's out there for him. Not gonna go back & forth with you on this any longer so I'll leave it at that.
     
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    The New York Jets announced today they have signed OL Sean Hickey and RB Dominique Williams to reserve/future contracts.

    Hickey, who started 38 consecutive games for Syracuse his final three collegiate seasons, signed as an undrafted free agent with the New Orleans Saints last spring. The 6’6”, 306-pound Hickey was one of the Saints’ final cuts in training camp and spent some time on both the Saints and Patriots’ practice squads last season.

    Williams, who attended Bridgeton HS in Bridgeton, NJ, rushed for 4,435 yards at Wagner. The 5’9”, 205-pounder rushed for 100 yards in 26 of 43 career collegiate games as he reached the 1,000-yard mark in three seasons and became the first player in school history to serve as a team captain for three seasons. Williams originally signed with the Minnesota Vikings as an undrafted free agent in the summer of 2014 and was the Vikes second-leading rusher that preseason. He has spent time on both the Vikings and Cardinals’ practice squads.
     
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    Stave reminds me of Cousins. The bad version (when he started out with the Redskins). Don't think he'll take the same steps so hopefully this is just a "let's look at him to make sure we really don't want him" type scouting.
     
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    I don't recall Idzik ever being this active scouting rookies. He does have a different (financial) background but it's great to see the GM actually roll up his sleeves and get something done instead of just sitting in his office reading scout reports.
     
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    Zettel, Austin Johnson, Carl Nassib are 3 good DL prospects from Penn State, Nassib had 16 sacks
     
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    For the uneducated does Reynolds have to go into the navy or can he go to the nfl? Based solely on his bowl game (only time I've seen him) I thought he could certainly do a job in the nfl
     
  20. DaBallhawk

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    A Department of Defense directive that took effect in 2008 says graduates can apply for early release after two years of active duty to participate in pro sports. If it is granted, they serve in the military reserves and pay back part of their education costs. "Exceptional personnel with unique talents and abilities may be released … when there is a strong expectation they will provide the Department with significant favorable media exposure likely to enhance national recruiting or public affairs efforts," says the directive.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...game-nfl-five-year-commitment-relief/1747399/

    Definitely possible but I guess it wouldn't make sense for somebody who isn't expected to be drafted or even get picked up undrafted.
     
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