It's highly dependent on draft position. There might be 4 guys worth 1st round talent. Fitz will never be a long term solution, I could stomach another year of him if I knew Petty was gonna be the guy. Geno is beat, he won't see the field unless we have an injury. Someone could shake loose, it won't be Rivers he signed a 4 year in August. Bree's is a possibility but so is RG3 getting cut. Neither of those possibilities give me warm fuzzies. I just don't want to see the FO pass on a QB because we are "developing a guy." I've seen that story already.
I think it's too early in the college season to make that judgment. I like Petty and I think even with the odds stacked against him he has a legitimate shot. That being said do you want to pass on a "Teddy Bridgewater" again?
This is absolutely correct. For example, I wouldn't mind hearing, "With the 32nd pick in the 2016 NFL Draft, your NEW YORK JETS select [insert any player's name]."
There is no Teddy Bridgewater in this draft, no Marcus Mariota. You knew who those guys were 2 years before they came out. Nobody in this class stuck out last year, even less so now. But I agree--I'm very high on Petty so for 2 reasons I do not want to draft a QB this year--none are very good and I want to give Petty the full look see. _
It will play out much like any other year, any good QB in the 1st, will be gone before we pick. We need to take one for the future and post a 1-15 season.
Mac will take the BPA, if it's a QB, it will be a QB. If it's a lineman, it's a lineman. They showed that when they drafted Leonard Williams. Petty is a 4th round pick, that won't stop the Jets from improving the position - heck they tried trading for Kirk Cousins.
they'll be no need to take a QB round 1 next year when we trade for Colin Kaepernick and he gets installed as the number 1 guy to run Chan Gailey's system... a system he was born to run
This suggests to me that the Jets are considering a trade of Kerley and would need another WR to replace him on the roster. Otherwise this move makes no sense. Kerley could have some value to another team, but given that the Jets want either (i) big receivers who can block and can play the slot or (ii) fast receivers who can spread the field as split-outs, there just really isn't any use for Kerley here except as a sure handed but mediocre punt returner.
If a QB separates themselves as a legitimate first rounder this year, Jets should absolutely look into drafting him. Having Petty shouldnt change that mindset.
Come on, guy. When are you going to stop being so biased about spread QBs? You were flat out wrong about Mariota, and I believe you're flat out wrong about Petty. Your bias blinds you to when a prospect has all the tools, and both the mental physical attributes necessary to succeed. You don't look at the individual player, you just generalize. A lot of collegiate spread offense QBs don't have all the tools and attributes to succeed in the NFL, but both Mariota and Petty do.
Just stop. You're making gross generalizations and not even considering the individuals. You're really making yourself look bad.
Don't be so sure about Mariota yet. It was a limited number of passes against a bad pass defense. The opponent was the only team that picked higher than the Titans last season.
Don't put Petty up on a pedestal. Let him earn it if he can. I watched him play this pre-season and the thing that stood out was how out of place he is at the moment. The speed of the game is messing with his ability to pick up a pro offense, even with the Jets using a bit of a spread. That doesn't mean he won't adapt but most 4th rounders, like 95% of them, can't make the adaptation to being a good NFL starter. Geno couldn't make the adaptation with 29 starts. It's going to be really hard to make the adaptation as a 4th round pick who the team can't devote a lot of resources to developing.
Based on Mac's handling of the draft this year and the way it turned out, I think that he will definitely go BPA regardless of position. At this point, I haven't seen a single collegiate QB likely to be in the draft that I consider to be worthy of a first round pick. If Mac were to consider positional needs more than just BPA in next year's draft, then I could see the first pick being an OLB, a FS, or maybe even an ILB. We definitely need an OLB with some speed other than Mauldin. I doubt Pace will be on the team next year. Coples may not be either. Depending upon how they play this year, we may need to start looking for either Brick's or Giacomini's eventual replacements and to serve as backups in the interim. Upgrading Ijalana and/or Qvale could be a good move. It's also quite possible that the starting FS spot may need to be upgraded. Unless Demario Davis starts playing better, we may be looking to upgrade his position. We defininitely need an upgrade at TE, but as long as Gailey is here, I doubt the Jets would take a stud receiving TE in the first round, if at all. Based on Mac's comments, I doubt he'd take an OG in round 1, but I think that probably about any other position would be in play.
It takes at least 2 good seasons for a Qb to become a legit franchise Qb, probably 3. Look at RG3. He's great his rookie season and now he's yesterday's newspaper. As for us drafting a Qb this coming year. If Geno doesn't work out it's worth considering based on who comes out. Plus their evaluation of Petty. I'm not holding it against him because he was only a 4th rounder. I doubt we'd be in a position to draft Connor Cook, at least I hope we're not.
ROFLMAO! Whatever. Doesn't matter how bad the D was. You have to have talent and skill to show command of the offense the way he did in his first game and have a perfect QB rating in the NFL.
You are right about 4th round picks that don't succeed but there are just as many 1st round picks and overall number 1 picks that don't either and then there is the occasional 6th rounder that does. Until they actually get on the field and play a few games nobody knows what they will do.
